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Old 04-16-2013, 08:19 PM   #1
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Ummm.... that's from the NY Post
- not to be confused with the NY Times or the Washington Post

International Business Times
Ellen Killoran
April 16 2013 3:54 PM

One Day After Boston Bombing, New York Post Has Not Retracted
Presumably Incorrect Reports Of Death Toll And Saudi Suspect

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On Monday afternoon, the New York Post published a dramatic report
that was widely aggregated and shared by thousands:
The Rupert Murdoch-owned tabloid claimed that 12 people were killed by explosions
at the finish line of the Boston Marathon, and that a suspect
-- a Saudi Arabian male -- was being questioned at a Boston hospital.

At the time of the report, Boston Police officials were reporting a death toll of two
(which has since been raised to three); the Post was the first to report that any suspects were in custody.

As the story began to circulate widely on Twitter
-- with little corroboration from more-reputable news sources -- skepticism grew. <snip>

But the Post refused to acknowledge any errors in reporting,
even after a spokesperson for the Boston Police Department told
Talking Points Memo that no suspects had been taken into custody.

"Honestly, I don't know where they're getting their information from,
but it didn't come from us," the spokesperson said.
<snip>
From my readings of various news articles, a Saudi student has now been exonerated.
He was a runner in the marathon... injured by the 1st bomb...
and was tackled by a bystander who "thought he was acting suspiciously".
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:38 PM   #2
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The CBS TV reporter on the scene, about 4:30 or so, mentioned the guy being tackled because he was running away from the blast, quickly pointing out so was everyone else. He said the guy was cooperative will the police and not arrested. Just a case of an over zealous bystander.
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:24 AM   #3
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Ummm.... that's from the NY Post
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Yeah, they lie sometimes.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:04 PM   #4
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NY Post is reporting that at least one Saudi national has been identified as a suspect.
One Saudi was detained because some white American saw this foreign looking guy, heard an explosion. and then the Saudi was running with everyone else. He was not white American. So he must be suspicious.

How would you protect from massacres when massacres (by Timothy McViegh, Terry Nichols and Michael Fortier, by Harris and Klebold, by Eric Rudolph, and by Adam and Nancy Lanza) were conducted or assisted only by American citizens. Most 'so called' terrorism is by American citizens. And still some just know it must have been that Saudi because he looks different; therefore must be evil.

Immediately after Oklahoma City, everyone was looking for Arabs because emotion (rather than what adults use) justified the reasoning.

Who are the most likely suspects? American citizens. Especially in a country where opinion based in no facts (also called hate) publicly says, "we want America to fail". Hate promoted by extremism inspires the most dangerous suspects - American citizens.

Where did Eric Rudolph get money and support while 'living in the woods for five years without any job'? Where did he get the 250 pounds of dynamite that he had stashed in NC woods? Oh. An evil Saddam or Santa Claus (another foreigner) must have provided it. Nonsense. The greatest threat to Americans are American citizens. Who, in great numbers, even praised Rudolph for the Altanta Olympics bombing.

Greatest threat is an American citizen brainwashed by extremists rhetoric. Who only believe the first thing he is told. Who still thinks like a child.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:06 PM   #5
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You're right, lets bomb Korea.
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:05 PM   #6
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You're right, lets bomb Korea.
It easier to bomb those who are a threat to no one. We attacked Saddam. Use the same reasoning. Bomb the North Pole. Santa Claus is a threat to no one. And does not have nukes.

Oh. Wait. We don't have a president who is destroying the economy. And needs a war to increase his popularity. Never mind.
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Old 04-15-2013, 05:09 PM   #7
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Our good friends the Saudis.

Again.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:15 PM   #8
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I think Americans in general are certainly hyper-sensitive to terrorist attacks, foreign and domestic. However, we're also of the mindset that, "Hey, fuck you! You don't try and fuck with my parade! Now we're gonna make an even bigger parade...and walk around naked too!"
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:39 AM   #9
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I think Americans in general are certainly hyper-sensitive to terrorist attacks, foreign and domestic. However, we're also of the mindset that, "Hey, fuck you! You don't try and fuck with my parade! Now we're gonna make an even bigger parade...and walk around naked too!"
No, no they're not. Unless by sensitive you mean able to be quickly outraged after an event rather than alert to prevent them? But they're hyper-dramatic once they've happened.

Sadly, even airport security still leaves a lot to be desired, never mind public awareness (which means watching for suspicious things in large crowds, not knowing exactly what you were doing the moment it happened and posting on facebook about how much you are praying....) .

Yes, there are now sniffer machines and x-ray machines and metal detectors and guards with even more guns and scary dogs at the airports.... and you can't wear shoes or take knitting needles on a plane.......... but two weeks ago at Metro Detroit there were STILL piles of unattended bags everywhere.

I grew up undwr the threat of IRA attacks and weekly bomb scare and let me tell you the American public is NOT "hyper-sensitive"

And the immediate assumption is foreign terrorism? Who recently shot up a primary schoool, a movie theater, a place of worship......? And who bombed Oklahoma City?
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:34 PM   #10
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:39 PM   #11
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Putting the finger on foreign fiends who decidedly did the dastardly deed sounds like a job for the Boston Tea Party!
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:40 PM   #12
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We don't have a president who is destroying the economy? Are you being sarcastic or serious?
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:13 PM   #13
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He's not. He can't. Only the slimy fuckers in congress can do that.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:25 PM   #14
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Forgot, the Prez is basically Phil Hartman. Smarmy dickhead in inconsequential comedy sketches.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:48 PM   #15
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Is it coincidental that a lot of legs were destroyed to the point of amputation? Or, do bombings usually involve a lot of people losing legs?

I'm most struck by the idea of so many people being turned so abruptly from marathon fans and/or runners into amputees.
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