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Old 04-26-2013, 09:07 AM   #1
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It always devilishly amusing to read David Brooks in the NY Times.
He wants so badly to be a leader, a guru, or at least be on the winning team.
He's just not sure which team will win.
Today, he joined the Limbaugh team...

It's going to fail HOORAY ! YEA! YEA! ... I told you so


NY Times
DAVID BROOKS
April 25, 2013
Health Chaos Ahead
Quote:
It was always going to be difficult to implement Obamacare,
but even fervent supporters of the law admit that things are going worse than expected.

<snip>
I’ve been talking with a bipartisan bunch of health care experts,
trying to get a sense of exactly how bad things are.
In my conversations with this extremely well-informed group
of providers, academics and former government officials, I’d say
there is a minority, including some supporters of the law,
who think the whole situation is a complete disaster. They predict
Obamacare will collapse and do serious damage to the underlying health system.
But wait a minute, David.
After showing us your width of knowledge... yada, yada, yada
You go on to say:

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But the clear majority, including some of the law’s opponents,
believe that we’re probably in for a few years of shambolic messiness,
during which time everybody will scramble and adjust,
and eventually we will settle down to a new normal.
<snip>
Over all, it seems likely that in some form or another Obamacare is here to stay.
But the turmoil around it could dominate politics for another election cycle, and the changes after that
— to finally control costs, to fix the mind-boggling complexities and the unintended consequences
— will never end.

Regulatory regimes can be simple and dumb or complex and sprawling.
When you build complex, it takes a while to work through the consequences.
So which is it, David ... CHAOS ... or just take a while ?

Next month David will be telling us of all the benefits and success
that he predicted for Obamacare.

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Old 04-27-2013, 08:32 PM   #2
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We will all know when Obamacare has succeeded when the first Republicans go back to calling it it The Affordable Care Act. This of course will not work well, since they have spent years attaching Obama's name to it.

You know it's too late when wiki puts in a redirect ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obamacare

If they had tried this bullshit decades ago, Social Security would be called Roosevelt Security.

BTW, Brooks is right about one thing. Obamacare is a sea change. It is not a band-aid. For good or ill is an at least partial overhaul of an entire system. There will be adjustments. We will see the real result in 5-10 years. There will always be detractors, even if there is a consensus that it turns out to be an improvement. But then again, some of the people who disagree with Obamacare still think the Earth is only 10,000 years old.
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:23 AM   #3
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I got an email today saying Obamacare should be run by walmart.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:30 AM   #4
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I got an email today saying Obamacare should be run by walmart.
One of the most efficient delivery systems of goods and services to consumers that exists today, with an almost across the board presence in the U.S. . I can see the pros and cons.

Add in Costco, Sam's Club, B.J.'s, and everyone in the US is probably 30 minutes from a store.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:15 AM   #5
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They're the worst thing to happen to the United States since the Vietnam war.
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:34 AM   #6
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They're the worst thing to happen to the United States since the Vietnam war.
Ummmm. My entry for the worst thing is in three words...

The next time you go to a doctor's office or a hospital or any kind of health center,
check the I.D. badge of the person interviewing you before (?) you are seen by your physician.
That person may then even give you a diagnosis and write a Rx for you,
and you may not ever meet "your" licensed physician (M.D., D.O, etc)
That person was a Certified Medical Assistant

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Graduates of medical assisting programs accredited by the
Commission on Accreditation of Allied Health Education Programs (CAAHEP)
or the Accrediting Bureau of Health Education Schools (ABHES)
are eligible to take the CMA (AAMA) Certification Exam.
<snip>
A greater number of employers are preferring (or even insisting)
that their medical assistants be CMAs (AAMA).<snip>
Sounds pretty innocuous, doesn't it ?
At least until you find out that your cute little 20-something's
education only amounted to what would otherwise be called an A.A.
(Community College) degree via an "accelerated program".
And, they are programs being heavily touted now by the
"for profit" colleges, universities, and on-line centers of "education"
Google "Medical Assistant certification" for more info.

OK, so doctors have had assistants and secretaries for years. So what ?
Well, aside from the competence of your CMA, the real rub is when it comes time for your billings.

The physician or hospital can charge for that CMA's time and service at the
same $ rate as "your" physician would have charged for their own
time and service as if they, he/she, had actually provided your service.


Thus, the physician or hospital can have "legal clones" of themselves
seeing patients and practicing medicine, and earning $ at any
number of different locations (offices/clinics) and times (24/7)
and the $-income is at the highest level commensurate with
that physicians "local and customary" charges,
and Medicare/Medicaid must reimburse these charges without question.

If these charges are higher than is covered by your own insurance,
you get the bill for your excess part of this scheme.

So, pay attention to who actually is treating your medical problems.
Maybe you would want to insist on seeing a doctor in person.
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