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Old 05-31-2013, 10:39 AM   #1
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My latest post above was a feeble attempt at humor. But more to the point...

How many times do drivers demonstrate their intent or courtesy
by interior hand-signals to another driver ? e.g., "you go first"
It's one of the reasons cited for not allowing darkened front windshields.

If a "licensed person" is required to be in the driver's seat and ready to take over.
What's the point of a driver-less car ?

For free-way driving, maybe... and especially on long, uninterrupted trips.
But as someone who thinks some basic decisions were wrong back
when we allowed train transportation to wither in favor of cross-country trucking,
I think car+passenger transport trains running on tracks along side our existing freeways
would be more economical, faster and safer than Google/GM/etc's driver-less cars "just because they can".

ETA: The insurance companies will have a ball figuring out who
is responsible, and who will pay, for accidents that are bound to happen
Alert to Programing Engineers: Get your liability insurance now.
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Old 05-31-2013, 10:48 AM   #2
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I think car+passenger transport trains running on tracks along side our existing freeways
would be more economical, faster and safer than Google/GM/etc's driver-less cars "just because they can".
If you can take the train, you don't need the damn car. Where these vehicles shine is locally, where there isn't an alternative. And don't tell me improve public transit, that's a red herring that's expensive, impractical, and won't work in 95% of the US.
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Old 05-31-2013, 12:09 PM   #3
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If you can take the train, you don't need the damn car.
Where these vehicles shine is locally, where there isn't an alternative.
That sounds like a stockholder of Hertz/Enterprize/Budget/etc.
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And don't tell me improve public transit, that's a red herring
that's expensive, impractical, and won't work in 95% of the US.
Agreed.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:58 AM   #4
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Old 06-01-2013, 07:23 AM   #5
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My latest post above was a feeble attempt at humor.
I believe you meant sarcasm. That part was subtle and obvious.

Driverless cars means more jobs when we no longer need chauffeurs and autobody repair shops. That's not sarcasm. That's how jobs are created.

Unload the car. Then tell it to go park itself in the garage. Another feature that has long been demonstrated. But, like in all innovative products, it takes many years to get to market. Even cell phones that track the arrival of your bus were demonstrated over a decade before it became common in State College PA. Innovation takes that long.

A driverless car is inevitable. But many want to blame the machine rather than the source of most failures - the human. Did we not learn this from cars whose brakes did not work? Of course. Only reason those cars crashed in every case - human failure. Often followed by more human responses - lies or denials.

And again, the way to make jobs is to replace humans from mundane tasks. A car can drive itself to the car wash when it needs cleaning. Why waste a human minute?
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Old 06-01-2013, 11:51 AM   #6
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OK, I know you folk in the East are not terribly concerned,
but here in the Pacific NW, and especially in Oregon, we are deeply
involved with cougars (mountain lions).

A few years ago that dreaded organization, The Humane Society,
launched a public campaign to put an end to the use of dogs (hounds)
while hunting cougars, etc.
Surprisingly, ,that public referendum passed, mainly by the
highly populated Portland, Salem, and Eugene voters.
The ODFW rules were changed, and since then have prohibited the use
of dogs in hunting cougars, bears, and maybe one or two kinds of other game.

It's always been legal in Oregon(with a hunting license) to hunt them,
but a single hunter or even group of hunters is very ineffective,
and many hunters are taken by the "thrill of the hunt" and
"reading the hounds" as the dogs chase and "tree" the animal.

So, hunters were outraged by the vote, and it's been a public fight ever since.
And now, a Bill has been introduced in the Oregon Legislature to nullify the public referendum.

Now in Oregon, that right there is a No, No.
Legislators often lose their next election if they vote to overturn a public referendum.

But now this... a string of 3 sightings of cougars in the PDX metropolitan area...(very coincidental ?)

KATU.com
6/1/13
ODFW to investigate cougar sighting near OHSU
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PORTLAND, Ore. – Two people, separately, say they saw a cougar
early Thursday morning near Oregon Health & Science University in Southwest Portland.
And the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife is investigating whether
a wild cougar is prowling around the hospital's parking garages.
The calls about a mysterious cat came from separate hospital rooms at about 2 a.m.

OHSU checked security cameras and found nothing.
But on Friday, police put up warnings for the 20,000 patients, employees and students at the hospital.
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The last time biologists from Oregon Fish and Wildlife confirmed an actual cougar roamed the area was in Gresham in 1996.
According to ODFW, there has never been a documented case in Oregon of a cougar attacking a person.
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