Pictures you didn't take - Page 43

xoxoxoBruce · 08-06-2014, 09:11 PM

Puffins, landing into the wind, and bringing home the bacon.

Carruthers · 08-07-2014, 05:12 AM

First: Flaring nicely, a few knots in hand, and 'grease it on'!

Second: A C of G recalculation possibly required here.

Thanks for that Bruce. The Puffin is one of my favourite birds, but not having been to the coast for years I don't get to see them.

Carruthers · 08-07-2014, 05:17 AM

Just to follow up on Bruce's pictures...

Gravdigr · 08-07-2014, 12:27 PM

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...dive up to 60 meters deep...

60 meters = damn near 200 feet!

Yumping Yiminy!

ETA: Metres, not meters...

glatt · 08-07-2014, 02:14 PM

I volunteered to try to put together a caving trip for our boy scout troop. And there's a recommended cave about 3 hours from here that is 4 miles long or so and takes days to explore. I was reading about it and it sounded pretty cool until I saw this picture. Now I'm questioning if I want to go caving at all.

This passage is called the airblower. It's 30 feet long and requires wiggling the whole way to get through. It's slightly downhill as you go into the cave, so you can't wriggle backwards uphill. Cavers going through have webbing tied off to them so if they get stuck you can pull them back out. It's ten inches wide at its narrowest point and requires you to exhale to squeeze through.

There is absolutely no way that I'm doing this. Would you?
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busterb · 08-07-2014, 06:16 PM

In a word. NO!

Clodfobble · 08-07-2014, 07:04 PM

Just looking at that picture makes me uncomfortable. I can't believe they'd allow untrained visitors to attempt it.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-07-2014, 07:39 PM

No fucking way.

lumberjim · 08-07-2014, 11:41 PM

No fuck king way.
No

Nope

Noey

I'm going out for a walk.

Gah.

It looks like a birth cah fucking nal

10 inches? There has to be a bunch of skin cells and body hair ground into the pores of that rocky vagima.

That sounds like the thing I would like to do the least. Honestly, i would rather break a bone in my foot.

Other than that, it sounds like a fun trip. Have fun, glatt. Take a lot of gopro footage.

But none of that nightmare part

BigV · 08-08-2014, 08:03 AM

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Here's my answer too.

No fucking way. It's... geometrically impossible unless we have different definitions of this thing you call and "inch".

As for trips in general, is there some way you can make a reconnaissance trip to a given destination with a more limited group, maybe you and some other adult, or you and your son. That gives you a chance compare what the trip's like on the ground to what it's like in the guidebooks or on the internet. Sometimes it's substantially different. Also, maybe not for this caving trip, but you can go to a site and travel only part of a trail suitable for the skill level and adventure desire of the kids on the trip.

glatt · 08-08-2014, 08:15 AM

I did this for a hike last winter. I scouted out about 1 mile of a 5 mile hike because there just wasn't time that day to scout out the whole hike. It looked perfect for our needs for a first easy hike the new scouts could do to train for a bigger 10 mile one in a month.

So we went back to do the entire 5 miles, and after the 1st mile, the trail went down a hillside into the shade, where there was a little snow and ice by the side of the trail, and then a little more, and a little more, and it was really incremental the way it changed. So we kept going forward until it got to the point that it was so icy, it was a little bit dangerous with the now icy rock scrambling. But by then we were 80% of the way around the loop, and nobody wanted to backtrack, so I and the other leaders figured we'd just keep going forward and be careful. That's when one of the boys slipped and smashed his forehead on the ice. Fortunately, he was OK and his dad was even with us, but he did get two golf ball sized bumps on his forehead, and looked like a Klingon.

But if we do this cave, it will be with a guide who is an expert, and we don't have to go through this crazy passage. A couple of the troop leaders have been in this cave before and recommend it.

BigV · 08-08-2014, 08:27 AM

Good man.

Overall, cave, yes. That death-trap, not no, HELLNO!

Caves are very exciting trips, they're different than practically all of the other experiences the young people have. It's dark at night in some places, but never darker than in the cave. That is cool. Have fun man!

glatt · 08-08-2014, 10:25 AM

Not something I see every day
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Gravdigr · 08-08-2014, 03:01 PM

I'm actually kinda impressed with the 'truck'.

That, friends and neighbors, is ingenuity. Or, enginuity.

Gravdigr · 08-08-2014, 03:04 PM

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It's ten inches wide at its narrowest point and requires you to exhale to squeeze through.

My head wouldn't fit through that hole.

And, unfortunately, no, that's not what she said.

08-06-2014, 09:11 PM	#631
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Puffins, landing into the wind, and bringing home the bacon. Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-07-2014, 05:12 AM	#632
Carruthers Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Buckinghamshire UK Posts: 4,059	First: Flaring nicely, a few knots in hand, and 'grease it on'! Second: A C of G recalculation possibly required here. Thanks for that Bruce. The Puffin is one of my favourite birds, but not having been to the coast for years I don't get to see them. __________________

08-07-2014, 05:17 AM	#633
Carruthers Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Buckinghamshire UK Posts: 4,059	Just to follow up on Bruce's pictures... __________________

08-07-2014, 06:16 PM	#636
busterb NSABFD Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MS. usa Posts: 3,908	In a word. NO! __________________ I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch.

08-07-2014, 07:04 PM	#637
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Just looking at that picture makes me uncomfortable. I can't believe they'd allow untrained visitors to attempt it. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

08-07-2014, 02:14 PM	#635
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I volunteered to try to put together a caving trip for our boy scout troop. And there's a recommended cave about 3 hours from here that is 4 miles long or so and takes days to explore. I was reading about it and it sounded pretty cool until I saw this picture. Now I'm questioning if I want to go caving at all. This passage is called the airblower. It's 30 feet long and requires wiggling the whole way to get through. It's slightly downhill as you go into the cave, so you can't wriggle backwards uphill. Cavers going through have webbing tied off to them so if they get stuck you can pull them back out. It's ten inches wide at its narrowest point and requires you to exhale to squeeze through. There is absolutely no way that I'm doing this. Would you?

08-07-2014, 07:39 PM	#638
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No fucking way. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-07-2014, 11:41 PM	#639
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	No fuck king way. No Nope Noey I'm going out for a walk. Gah. It looks like a birth cah fucking nal 10 inches? There has to be a bunch of skin cells and body hair ground into the pores of that rocky vagima. That sounds like the thing I would like to do the least. Honestly, i would rather break a bone in my foot. Other than that, it sounds like a fun trip. Have fun, glatt. Take a lot of gopro footage. But none of that nightmare part __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

08-08-2014, 08:15 AM	#641
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I did this for a hike last winter. I scouted out about 1 mile of a 5 mile hike because there just wasn't time that day to scout out the whole hike. It looked perfect for our needs for a first easy hike the new scouts could do to train for a bigger 10 mile one in a month. So we went back to do the entire 5 miles, and after the 1st mile, the trail went down a hillside into the shade, where there was a little snow and ice by the side of the trail, and then a little more, and a little more, and it was really incremental the way it changed. So we kept going forward until it got to the point that it was so icy, it was a little bit dangerous with the now icy rock scrambling. But by then we were 80% of the way around the loop, and nobody wanted to backtrack, so I and the other leaders figured we'd just keep going forward and be careful. That's when one of the boys slipped and smashed his forehead on the ice. Fortunately, he was OK and his dad was even with us, but he did get two golf ball sized bumps on his forehead, and looked like a Klingon. But if we do this cave, it will be with a guide who is an expert, and we don't have to go through this crazy passage. A couple of the troop leaders have been in this cave before and recommend it.

08-08-2014, 08:27 AM	#642
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Good man. Overall, cave, yes. That death-trap, not no, HELLNO! Caves are very exciting trips, they're different than practically all of the other experiences the young people have. It's dark at night in some places, but never darker than in the cave. That is cool. Have fun man! __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

08-08-2014, 10:25 AM	#643
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Not something I see every day

08-08-2014, 03:01 PM	#644
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	I'm actually kinda impressed with the 'truck'. That, friends and neighbors, is ingenuity. Or, enginuity. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

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