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Griff · 08-21-2014, 06:08 AM

Is suicide more selfish than an expectation that someone in unbearable pain keep on living for whatever need they fill in us? To me, that expectation is far more selfish than suicide.

Sundae · 08-21-2014, 06:25 AM

IMHO, suicide is killing. It's a killing of the self.
Of course we back away from those who kill - murderers!!! But people have and will kill in ways that society has sanctioned. The hangman, the soldier, the policeman.

The vast majority of people that kill take no pleasure in their acts.
Did WWI or WWII veterans come back just to be called serial killers?

So suicides should at least be granted the disparity of their own reasons.
Not all killing is violent. Not all suicide is revenge.
And sometimes it feels like a reasonable cessation.

That said, I still miss Brianna and need her more now than I did then. I still find it hard to believe I won't hear her voice again. Life moves on and we grieve and live and it feels like a betrayal.

Sorry. Probably the wrong thread for this.

fargon · 08-21-2014, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae

Sorry. Probably the wrong thread for this.

No Sundae it had to be said.

Spexxvet · 08-21-2014, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by orthodoc

Sometimes divorce saves lives. An abused spouse gets out before being killed, and may take the minor children so that they don't have to be subjected to further abuse or watch a parent's death. Is that selfish?

And how is it that you are comparing suicide with divorce as a function of selfishness? Do you not see either tragedy in any other way?

It seems to me that divorce is like suicide from a marriage, but instead of being dead, you get to go and live your life more happily. I think that's selfish.

glatt · 08-21-2014, 11:21 AM

I suppose you could argue that breathing is selfish. I breathe without even thinking, but I do it only for self serving reasons.

Sheldonrs · 08-21-2014, 11:21 AM

I think divorce is more like the funeral after the death.

monster · 08-24-2014, 04:15 PM

Richard Attenborough

90 is a ripe old age, though

orthodoc · 08-24-2014, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

It seems to me that divorce is like suicide from a marriage, but instead of being dead, you get to go and live your life more happily. I think that's selfish.

I suspect you're viewing divorce from a personal point of view that doesn't encompass other situations. At least, I hope so.

monster · 08-24-2014, 10:17 PM

when I told beest about Dickie, he told me Iyengar just died at an even riper old age. I totally missed that.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/w...guru/14324985/

Gravdigr · 08-25-2014, 03:13 PM

I thought "Iyengar?! Who the hell is Iyengar?"

But then I clicked the link.

I didn't know who he was, but, I knew his face. Somehow.

Sheldonrs · 08-27-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

I thought "Iyengar?! Who the hell is Iyengar?"

But then I clicked the link.

I didn't know who he was, but, I knew his face. Somehow.

He's the guy that made it more difficult to please a sex partner.
Because of him, people could get into even more positions.
Downward Facing Dog, my ass!

Gravdigr · 08-27-2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

He's the guy that made it more difficult to please a sex partner.
Because of him, people could get into even more positions.
Downward Facing Dog, my ass!

Bless your Upward-Facing Ass.

monster · 08-27-2014, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

I thought "Iyengar?! Who the hell is Iyengar?"

Iyengarna tell you

Gravdigr · 08-28-2014, 01:53 PM

Veteran character actor Stephen Lee is dead at 58.

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This guy played in everything that was ever on television.

Carruthers · 08-29-2014, 03:17 PM

Bill Kerr, Australian actor and radio star, dies aged 92

He was ninety-one when he recorded the 'Shooting of Dan McGrew' without script or autocue. Post 238 (Scroll down)

08-21-2014, 06:08 AM	#481
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Is suicide more selfish than an expectation that someone in unbearable pain keep on living for whatever need they fill in us? To me, that expectation is far more selfish than suicide. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-21-2014, 11:21 AM	#486
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	I think divorce is more like the funeral after the death. __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

08-24-2014, 04:15 PM	#487
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Richard Attenborough 90 is a ripe old age, though __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

08-24-2014, 10:17 PM	#489
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	when I told beest about Dickie, he told me Iyengar just died at an even riper old age. I totally missed that. http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/w...guru/14324985/ __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

08-25-2014, 03:13 PM	#490
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	I thought "Iyengar?! Who the hell is Iyengar?" But then I clicked the link. I didn't know who he was, but, I knew his face. Somehow. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

08-21-2014, 06:25 AM	#482
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	IMHO, suicide is killing. It's a killing of the self. Of course we back away from those who kill - murderers!!! But people have and will kill in ways that society has sanctioned. The hangman, the soldier, the policeman. The vast majority of people that kill take no pleasure in their acts. Did WWI or WWII veterans come back just to be called serial killers? So suicides should at least be granted the disparity of their own reasons. Not all killing is violent. Not all suicide is revenge. And sometimes it feels like a reasonable cessation. That said, I still miss Brianna and need her more now than I did then. I still find it hard to believe I won't hear her voice again. Life moves on and we grieve and live and it feels like a betrayal. Sorry. Probably the wrong thread for this.

08-21-2014, 11:21 AM	#485
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I suppose you could argue that breathing is selfish. I breathe without even thinking, but I do it only for self serving reasons.

08-28-2014, 01:53 PM	#494
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Veteran character actor Stephen Lee is dead at 58. This guy played in everything that was ever on television. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

08-29-2014, 03:17 PM	#495
Carruthers Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Buckinghamshire UK Posts: 4,059	Bill Kerr, Australian actor and radio star, dies aged 92 He was ninety-one when he recorded the 'Shooting of Dan McGrew' without script or autocue. Post 238 (Scroll down)

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