CARS

lumberjim · 04-16-2004, 09:32 AM

it's illegal to make a fake invoice. Most dealers are very careful to be legal. If someone is shown the invoice, then that is what the car cost the dealer.

NOW> there MAY be dealer incentives. These are like rebates, but they go directly to the dealer. The dealer CAN pass this along, but does not HAVE to. Chrysler likes to put "stair step" programs out. This means that they set an objective....say 50 jeeps in a month, then they give you $500 per jeep back to the first one if you hit 100% of your goal. $750 for 110%, $1000 for 120%. A smart and brave dealer will write deals as though he has already acheived the first level. the theory being that if they pass on deals that they could have made with the extra cash, then they wont ever reach the level that is needed to earn it anyway.

you can check invoice amounts at edmunds.com or kbb.com. keep in mind that there are advertising fees billed to each car. edmunds mentions them, but cannot quantify them, as they vary from region to region. on a Jeep, there are 2. ppa and daa. national and local advertising groups. one is $220 or something, the other is closer to $450. allow for something like this when you build your car to check the prices.

04-16-2004, 09:32 AM	#1
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	it's illegal to make a fake invoice. Most dealers are very careful to be legal. If someone is shown the invoice, then that is what the car cost the dealer. NOW> there MAY be dealer incentives. These are like rebates, but they go directly to the dealer. The dealer CAN pass this along, but does not HAVE to. Chrysler likes to put "stair step" programs out. This means that they set an objective....say 50 jeeps in a month, then they give you $500 per jeep back to the first one if you hit 100% of your goal. $750 for 110%, $1000 for 120%. A smart and brave dealer will write deals as though he has already acheived the first level. the theory being that if they pass on deals that they could have made with the extra cash, then they wont ever reach the level that is needed to earn it anyway. you can check invoice amounts at edmunds.com or kbb.com. keep in mind that there are advertising fees billed to each car. edmunds mentions them, but cannot quantify them, as they vary from region to region. on a Jeep, there are 2. ppa and daa. national and local advertising groups. one is $220 or something, the other is closer to $450. allow for something like this when you build your car to check the prices. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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