The Vital Difference

[Ibby]

Yes, because clearly explaining why I think he's a hypocrite is exactly the same as you categorically insulting entire groups, spewing bigoted ageist, racist, and homophobic filth all over, and harassing multiple members across multiple threads for multiple (bullshit) reasons.

[piercehawkeye45]

Authoritarian Right - The ethnic cleansing/military/everything will fuck you.

Authoritarian Left - The corruption will fuck you.

Libertarian (aka anarcho-captialism) - The system will fuck you

Anarchy – Utopian society, won't exist.

No way to go except to hide in the middle.


All authoritarian governments are bad for civil liberties whether it is left or right, will fuck you in the end. The right comes off as more brutal because they are upfront with their corruption and views, the left is usually eaten from the inside out.

Also Ibram, by leftists do you mean left as in anarchist left or as authoritarian communism left? They are both left but are completely different.

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Also Ibram, by leftists do you mean left as in anarchist left or as authoritarian communism left? They are both left but are completely different.

In this context, by right/left, I just mean Republicans vs. Democrats, in the US, right now, specifically.

In the grand scheme of things its obviously impossible to say whether the left or the right is more or less authoritarian, because obviously both sides cover the spectrum.
But in the USA, right now, the right, the Republicans, are by far more authoritarian.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Ibram

Yes, because clearly explaining why I think he's a hypocrite is exactly the same as you categorically insulting entire groups, spewing bigoted ageist, racist, and homophobic filth all over, and harassing multiple members across multiple threads for multiple (bullshit) reasons.

Hello Kettle. Let me introduce you to Pot.

You are textbook case of double standards.

Originally Posted by Ibram

In this context, by right/left, I just mean Republicans vs. Democrats, in the US, right now, specifically.

In the grand scheme of things its obviously impossible to say whether the left or the right is more or less authoritarian, because obviously both sides cover the spectrum.
But in the USA, right now, the right, the Republicans, are by far more authoritarian.

[Ibby]

I fail to see any double standard anywhere.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Ibram

I fail to see any double standard anywhere.

Well that is quite obvious. I would expect you to see your own failings.

[Ibby]

Still a troll; still utterly failing to add anything worthwhile to the thread.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Ibram

Still a troll; still utterly failing to add anything worthwhile to the thread.

Well not really, just not interested in adding anything to the rambling thoughts of a confused teen.

[Ibby]

Then leave, and go be a bigoted dick somewhere else.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Ibram

Then leave, and go be a bigoted dick somewhere else.

never. :p

And stop thinking about my dick.

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by Ibram

Still a troll; still utterly failing to add anything worthwhile to the thread.

So don't respond to him then. Seriously, some of these threads that go on for page after page wouldn't if you didn't rise to the bait.

[Undertoad]

Merc, let's agree you get to destroy three more threads. I don't really care how it happens, I'm just fixin on a number, here.

[BigV]

Three's good.

[Aliantha]

I could live with three.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

But still, there's me telling Ibbie where to go and on occasion where to insert it when he gets there.

In my rather lengthy experience, there's nothing to choose authoritarianismwise between the Republicans -- who have the virtue of more sensible foreign policy -- and the Democrats -- who have traded socialism for virtues of any sort. For just one example, take Clinton's authoritarianism with beating Smith & Wesson over the head with government-mandated gun "fingerprinting" requirements, and Bush's total absence of any such attempting to suppress the gun industry without saying so.

Not being socialists, the Republicans tend to think nearer the Libertarians on economic matters. Naturally enough, I prefer this to the Democrat's penchant for Socialism, which if implemented will be hugely authoritarian as well as a gigantic failure.

No, Ibbie, your post tells me you've been played, and thoroughly. By people older than you.