Hand wringing about Jill leaving.

[Flint]

100% Agree:

Originally Posted by lookout123

It's kind of like the kindergartener saying "teacher teacher I don't like the way billy plays with the blocks. He won't do it the way I want him to." Fuck it. Don't play with him. Either he'll get bored having no friends to play with and change or he'll continue to be ignored.

I am bewildered by the level of resistance towards concepts that my pre-kindergarten age children are aware of, and capable of practicing. We do not need more rules or moderation here. We do not want more rules or moderation here. If you are in favor of a "rules or moderation" solution, then you have the choice of either growing up and learning how adults interact, or fucking leaving the Cellar.

If you leave, don't feel like you need to make an announcement. Just go away and find someplace that you like.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Flint

100% Agree:

I am bewildered by the level of resistance towards concepts that my pre-kindergarten age children are aware of, and capable of practicing. We do not need more rules or moderation here. We do not want more rules or moderation here. If you are in favor of a "rules or moderation" solution, then you have the choice of either growing up and learning how adults interact, or fucking leaving the Cellar.
If you leave, don't feel like you need to make an announcement. Just go away and find someplace that you like.

The only people who have suggested moderation in one form or another, in this thread, are Undertoad, Aliantha, Limey, Footfootfoot, Griff and myself, though mine was a joke suggestion.

So, all these people are just childish idiots who need to grow the fuck up or leave the cellar?

Or was it aimed mainly at me? In which case it doesn't make a lot of sense as, my flippant comment about red and yellow cards aside, I have spent much of this thread arguing against increased moderation.

You have just characterised a bunch of people as childish because they have a different view of how the board might work to the one you hold. Whilst steadfastly refusing to engage with the issue at hand.


[eta] Twat.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by lookout123

It's kind of like the kindergartener saying "teacher teacher I don't like the way billy plays with the blocks. He won't do it the way I want him to." Fuck it. Don't play with him. Either he'll get bored having no friends to play with and change or he'll continue to be ignored.

Alternatively the rest of the kindergarteners simply abandon the idea of playing with the blocks altogether.

[lookout123]

Welcome to self policing.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by DanaC

... childish idiots ...

I never said "idiots."



I did say "weak-minded fools" and "sloppy thinkers" but I never said "idiots."

[DanaC]

Starts to seriously limit the playbox though.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by DanaC

No way are the majority of posters left of centre.

My own reading of dwellars is that most are a combination of left of centre and right of centre views. A lot of dwellars are, for instance, socially progressive and economically conservative.

I would go so far as to say the vast majority here are left of center.

Your post is screaming for a poll!! hear it?

Dana, set up a Poll Poll Poll

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Flint

I never said "idiots."



I did say "weak-minded fools" and "sloppy thinkers" but I never said "idiots."

I was paraphrasing. Had I been quoting I'd have employed the quote box. Nice side step though.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by Flint

I never said "idiots."



I did say "weak-minded fools" and "sloppy thinkers" but I never said "idiots."

/waves/These are not the insults you're looking for/jedi hand/

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by classicman

I would go so far as to say the vast majority here are left of center.

Your post is screaming for a poll!! hear it?

Dana, set up a Poll Poll Poll

Maybe it's a Brit thing. The board seems mostly centre right to me.

[Flint]

Originally Posted by DanaC

I was paraphrasing.

I couldn't tell if it was "paraphrasing," a "joke suggestion," or simply a "flippant comment." Exactly which kinds of posts absolve you of reponsibility? Does that work just for you, or am I also allowed to be "flippant" in your brave new world?

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Starts to seriously limit the playbox though.

If you really believe someone is shitting in the corner of the sandbox, do you really want to play in that corner?

I get your point, but focusing on Merc seems kind of pointless to me. Sure he's an ass but really he's not alone and if he's quieted then some of the other asses will still make the politics forum unliveable. In the end I feel reasonable political discussion is done and dusted, not just in the cellar but in society.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Maybe it's a Brit thing. The board seems mostly centre right to me.

Then again, you think anything to the right of Marx is a neocon.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Flint

I couldn't tell if it was "paraphrasing," a "joke suggestion," or simply a "flippant comment." Exactly which kinds of posts absolve you of reponsibility? Does that work just for you, or am I also allowed to be "flippant" in your brave new world?

You can be flippant all you want sweetie.

The red and yellow card suggestion was in response to somebody else's suggestion that we have a referee: in football (soccer) referees show red and yellow cards when a player does something against the rules.

Not a hilarious joke I grant you, but a joke nonetheless.

You can tell when i am being serious: I explain myself. As I did here:

Originally Posted by DanaC

The Cellar is more than just a random collection of strangers. It is a community. We have, and continue to evolve accordingly. Unusually for an internet community we are very lightly moderated. Something I am very glad is the case. Because we do not have a clear ruleset and moderator enforcement, we self-manage as a community for the most part. Again, this is something I am glad of.

and here

Originally Posted by DanaC

I agree with this. I don't particularly want to see increased moderation in the Cellar.

I do think it's useful now and then for us to air this stuff though. If for no other reason than it lets people who've perhaps been under the impression that we're all cool with the shitslinging know that actually they're not alone and the problem has a wider recognition.

[DanaC]

Now I'd like to get back the fact that you think Undertoad, Aliantha, Limey, Footfootfoot, BigV and Griff are weakminded fools who need to grow up or leave the cellar.