que es mas macho?

footfootfoot · 04-12-2006, 09:33 PM

OKay, bear wit me here. I just got me one of them there pea seas and I am now eligible for womanband connection (is that the politcally corrected term for broadband?)

anyway, verizon has a deal where I can get unlimited calling, Long distance, short distance, intermediate distance, plus DSL for $75/month, taxes included.

Sounds good to me, vis a vis, current phone charges plus my blistering 56k dialup = (where is my "option" key?) $75/month

cable would be about $30 more.

verizon dude claims that I would be getting about 3Mb/s versus 56kb/s. seems faster on paper.

Is cable any better?

I appreciate any answers. I can repay you with long, involved technical questions about the lost art of "wet ptrocess, silver based photography" for want of a better term.

anxiously awaiting higher speed connection.

also, this whole windows thing is kinda weird, but it feels like when I switched form AOL to a real ISP.

I guess I am at the foot of a learnig curve. possibly a learning curve as well.

Cheyenne · 04-12-2006, 10:02 PM

SBC/at&t has bundled packages. phone, dsl, digital dish, cell phone.

DSL for 12.99 a mnth Download speeds up to 1.5 Mbps for one year.

double the speed to up to 3.0 Mbps for 17.99 a mnth for one year.

not sure about all the other prices but you can see here

some folks swear by cable but I have had cable and dsl. i am now running dsl and am quite happy with the speed i get.

the closer you are to a central office makes a difference on optimal speed.

Cheyenne · 04-12-2006, 10:09 PM

oh, by the way....it is "band of the female persuasion" if you don't mind! :p

footfootfoot · 04-12-2006, 10:46 PM

thanks! I stand corrected.

Beestie · 04-13-2006, 12:32 AM

A DSL "incomprehensively unpredictable and paradoxically counter-intuitive" internet connection isn't quite as good as cable but its not bad.

I had DSL for a while at home but the signal was too weak and we had a ton of problems so I ditched it for cable. If your cable co. offers internet connections, I'd certainly ask what their deal is before commiting to DSL. Cable, in my experience, is much better - especially if your cable is transmitted over fiber optic (as opposed to copper).

You'll be better off either way, tho, relative to dial-up.

Cheyenne · 04-13-2006, 04:04 AM

A very informative read here about fiber to the house.

wolf · 04-19-2006, 01:02 AM

Que es mas macho?

Pineapple.

Carbonated_Brains · 04-19-2006, 02:17 AM

Here in Toronto the biggest problem with DSL is the age of the lines going to your house. Old phone tech, and loopy wiring result in instant migranes. Not to mention that there is zero DSL competition here and Bell Canada is almost a sick joke... BUT. I've heard lots of people love it, and here there's no throughput limits.

Cable is what I currently use, there are published throughput limits (the "volume" you can download monthly) but they aren't enforced at all. Cable is the same deal, if you're in an older area you're more likely to encounter local cable repairs and construction timeouts...spotty service. But I would go so far as to say the technology is on a whole better than DSL as far as the EUH ("End User Headache") factor.

And I know I'm gonna get flak for this, but if you're surfing the internet and sending email...there's really no reason to pay a premium for speeds above, say, 3mbps (you'd probably be fine with 1.5 though!). Think about it; unless you're running webservices (FTP, apache) from your local computer, or networking an ungodly amount of people, the bottleneck isn't your internet connection, it's the webserver providing you with content.

And even for bittorrent, you likely wont push the limits of your connection. I'm on a 5mbps connection as a result of the people I live with, which translates to...640 kiloBYTES per second? I've never seen a torrent or download go that fast in my life.

But, maybe I'm crazy and just have a bad connection. Things to consider!

WabUfvot5 · 04-19-2006, 03:11 AM

You should have the telco run a line test and see how far away from the CO you are. Farther away can lead to more problems. I'm capped at 40K/s each way because I'm beyond the maximum distance they usually support. Anything higher and my connection drops. The farther you are below 18000 feet the better. Also as Carbonated says the phone lines in the area can influence things. Older lines = crappier.

The big gripes with cable are cost and sharing. Sometimes they oversubscribe and at peak times things can get slow. Maybe that's better or not a problem in your area. Cable is faster however.

Guess it comes down to what you're using the connection for. Is reliability more important than speed? Even though my DSL is very slow it's pretty dependable.

04-12-2006, 09:33 PM	#1
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	que es mas macho? OKay, bear wit me here. I just got me one of them there pea seas and I am now eligible for womanband connection (is that the politcally corrected term for broadband?) anyway, verizon has a deal where I can get unlimited calling, Long distance, short distance, intermediate distance, plus DSL for $75/month, taxes included. Sounds good to me, vis a vis, current phone charges plus my blistering 56k dialup = (where is my "option" key?) $75/month cable would be about $30 more. verizon dude claims that I would be getting about 3Mb/s versus 56kb/s. seems faster on paper. Is cable any better? I appreciate any answers. I can repay you with long, involved technical questions about the lost art of "wet ptrocess, silver based photography" for want of a better term. anxiously awaiting higher speed connection. also, this whole windows thing is kinda weird, but it feels like when I switched form AOL to a real ISP. I guess I am at the foot of a learnig curve. possibly a learning curve as well. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

04-12-2006, 10:02 PM	#2
Cheyenne Operations Operative Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: http://www.kevinlahey.com/mt.html Posts: 616	SBC/at&t has bundled packages. phone, dsl, digital dish, cell phone. DSL for 12.99 a mnth Download speeds up to 1.5 Mbps for one year. double the speed to up to 3.0 Mbps for 17.99 a mnth for one year. not sure about all the other prices but you can see here some folks swear by cable but I have had cable and dsl. i am now running dsl and am quite happy with the speed i get. the closer you are to a central office makes a difference on optimal speed. __________________ ~What Flows From Your Fingertips Is A Reflection Of Your Heart~~ Chey~~ Last edited by Cheyenne; 04-12-2006 at 10:06 PM.

04-12-2006, 10:09 PM	#3
Cheyenne Operations Operative Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: http://www.kevinlahey.com/mt.html Posts: 616	oh, by the way....it is "band of the female persuasion" if you don't mind! :p __________________ ~What Flows From Your Fingertips Is A Reflection Of Your Heart~~ Chey~~

04-12-2006, 10:46 PM	#4
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	thanks! I stand corrected. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

04-13-2006, 12:32 AM	#5
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	A DSL "incomprehensively unpredictable and paradoxically counter-intuitive" internet connection isn't quite as good as cable but its not bad. I had DSL for a while at home but the signal was too weak and we had a ton of problems so I ditched it for cable. If your cable co. offers internet connections, I'd certainly ask what their deal is before commiting to DSL. Cable, in my experience, is much better - especially if your cable is transmitted over fiber optic (as opposed to copper). You'll be better off either way, tho, relative to dial-up. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

04-13-2006, 04:04 AM	#6
Cheyenne Operations Operative Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: http://www.kevinlahey.com/mt.html Posts: 616	A very informative read here about fiber to the house. __________________ ~What Flows From Your Fingertips Is A Reflection Of Your Heart~~ Chey~~

04-19-2006, 01:02 AM	#7
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Que es mas macho? Pineapple. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-19-2006, 02:17 AM	#8
Carbonated_Brains Does it show up here when I type? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Between the smoky layers of a prosciutto sandwich! Posts: 355	Here in Toronto the biggest problem with DSL is the age of the lines going to your house. Old phone tech, and loopy wiring result in instant migranes. Not to mention that there is zero DSL competition here and Bell Canada is almost a sick joke... BUT. I've heard lots of people love it, and here there's no throughput limits. Cable is what I currently use, there are published throughput limits (the "volume" you can download monthly) but they aren't enforced at all. Cable is the same deal, if you're in an older area you're more likely to encounter local cable repairs and construction timeouts...spotty service. But I would go so far as to say the technology is on a whole better than DSL as far as the EUH ("End User Headache") factor. And I know I'm gonna get flak for this, but if you're surfing the internet and sending email...there's really no reason to pay a premium for speeds above, say, 3mbps (you'd probably be fine with 1.5 though!). Think about it; unless you're running webservices (FTP, apache) from your local computer, or networking an ungodly amount of people, the bottleneck isn't your internet connection, it's the webserver providing you with content. And even for bittorrent, you likely wont push the limits of your connection. I'm on a 5mbps connection as a result of the people I live with, which translates to...640 kiloBYTES per second? I've never seen a torrent or download go that fast in my life. But, maybe I'm crazy and just have a bad connection. Things to consider!

04-19-2006, 03:11 AM	#9
WabUfvot5 Operations Operative Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 634	You should have the telco run a line test and see how far away from the CO you are. Farther away can lead to more problems. I'm capped at 40K/s each way because I'm beyond the maximum distance they usually support. Anything higher and my connection drops. The farther you are below 18000 feet the better. Also as Carbonated says the phone lines in the area can influence things. Older lines = crappier. The big gripes with cable are cost and sharing. Sometimes they oversubscribe and at peak times things can get slow. Maybe that's better or not a problem in your area. Cable is faster however. Guess it comes down to what you're using the connection for. Is reliability more important than speed? Even though my DSL is very slow it's pretty dependable.

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