Soldier Funeral Protest

05-03-2006, 12:58 AM

This is just wrong no matter what side you are on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G470rfJQCI

xoxoxoBruce · 05-03-2006, 03:58 AM

I'm really surprised Roper hasn't been hurt by now.

05-03-2006, 04:27 AM

The person interviewed, in the link you provided, is just plain nuts (i.e. brainwashed beyond redemption) and doesn't pose any real threat. Forget about that one.

Some others who engage in disrupting funerals are Stockholm Syndrome victims. They are sick. War (generally) and terrorism (especially) scares them so badly that they will engage in any conduct, including psychologically aiding and abetting the enemy, which they believe may somehow eventually save their own skins.

Many of those who engage in this untoward behavior believe that if they deny the fallen soldiers a hero's funeral; or, martyrdom, they will suceed in discouraging others from fighting for a cause. They are misguided, they are out of date, war is no longer glamorous to us as it is to our enemy. Studies show that soldiers fight and sacrifice their lives for other reasons.

Some seek retaliation against those whom they think are responsible for their own life's difficulties. They are cowards. They know the dead soldiers can no longer speak for themselves.

When the going gets tough, the tough get going; but, the weak get brainwashed, sick, misguided, and cowardly. We probably have more weak willed citizens now than at anytime in our history. The rest of us just have to pass new laws to contain them as they find new ways to disgust us. Those who are conscientious objectors and reputable citizens will find more respectable ways to make their positions known.

Jordon · 05-03-2006, 08:48 AM

This is a very straightforward con. All the religious crap is window dressing. They protest any event where they can antagonize someone into physically hitting them. Then they sue. Their group is alway juggling several lawsuits at the same time, and this is how they make their money. Wouldn't be surprised if they were actually all Roma

billybob · 05-03-2006, 09:03 AM

This is not a con. And it's not about the military. The Westboro Baptist Church, led by Fred Phelps is a pseudo-religious anti-gay basketcase.

They've been picketing the funerals of gays since 1998. Doesn't matter what walk of life you come from, if you are gay, you are a target for their hatred.
They run a website based on the notion that 'God Hates Fags'. Gay-bashing seems to be their whole lives.How sad. If there is a God, I can't imagine that he'd be as intolerant and lacking in human decency as these whackos.

Jordon · 05-03-2006, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybob

This is not a con. And it's not about the military. The Westboro Baptist Church, led by Fred Phelps is a pseudo-religious anti-gay basketcase.

They've been picketing the funerals of gays since 1998. Doesn't matter what walk of life you come from, if you are gay, you are a target for their hatred.
They run a website based on the notion that 'God Hates Fags'. Gay-bashing seems to be their whole lives.How sad. If there is a God, I can't imagine that he'd be as intolerant and lacking in human decency as these whackos.

Um, sorry, but yeah, it is a congame, and a fairly lucrative one. They are all performers, and they play their parts very effectively. What they do is horrible, of course, but it is not real in the sense that they actually believe the stuff they spew. They are just in it for the money.

Elspode · 12-03-2008, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybob

This is not a con. And it's not about the military. The Westboro Baptist Church, led by Fred Phelps is a pseudo-religious anti-gay basketcase.

Fred Phelps is a useless piece of human trash, parading about the image of crucified savior for his own immoral and incontrovertably sick purposes. Fred and his acolytes should fall into the nearest crack in the Earth that leads directly to the fires of Hell, their ultimate undeniable destination.

If Jesus came back to Earth, Fred and his clan would be first ones he would walk up to and smack across the gobs.

05-03-2006, 01:48 PM

Hey Fred, good to know.

cowhead · 05-03-2006, 02:57 PM

coming from lawrence kansas.. a scant 24 miles from phelps.. gotta tell you these whack jobs do more than protest at funerals, they hit anything and everything they don't like or consider to be morally right, I don't know how many plays and music events they have been at, the thing is that it's not a con as far as I can tell, although it is awfully lucrative. and for the record they have been at it longer than '98 that's just when they started getting more national attention for it, and the thing that actually bothers me... (well, the whole thing that bothers me) they protested a friend of mines funeral back in 92' when he died of aids, and have been at it ever since, but it got no real press until phelpsco. started picketing the war dead, and yes it's bullshit. but it's not like this is something new.. gotta say though one of these days someone is going to take his sick ass out.. (heh, I've known a couple of pissed off lesbians who have actually tried to run him over, and afterwards if you'll notice he started shielding himself behind children.. sick fuck) then again it'll put him into some sort of martyr situation. oh and by the by if you're in Kansas and are of the crafty persuasion, hate to say it.. but hobby lobby is a huge financial suporter of the westboro baptist church, may not really make any difference.. but they don't get my money anymore.

richlevy · 05-13-2006, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowhead

by if you're in Kansas and are of the crafty persuasion, hate to say it.. but hobby lobby is a huge financial suporter of the westboro baptist church, may not really make any difference.. but they don't get my money anymore.

Well, someone should hold up a 'sponsored by' sign at the next one of his tirades and let them get the credit they deserve.

claudmc · 12-03-2008, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowhead

oh and by the by if you're in Kansas and are of the crafty persuasion, hate to say it.. but hobby lobby is a huge financial suporter of the westboro baptist church, may not really make any difference.. but they don't get my money anymore.

Thanks for this post. I've been trying to find any viable, credible information in print or online that verifies this allegation. I really want to know whether or not this is true or if it's just rumor. If it is, I will definitely stop shopping there. The Phelps clan protested the funeral of my best friend of 10 years who died in Iraq, and I must say my feelings against them are extremely personal. I do know, regarding Hobby Lobby, that its founder and CEO is David Green, who is a member of Assemblies of God and donates & contributes lots of money to them.

http://www.hobbylobby.com/our_compan...any.cfm?page=2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobby_Lobby

Many of the organizations there are affiliated or run by Assemblies of God. Although I definitely do not align myself with the beliefs and practices of this church, this affiliation is less important to me than the alleged Phelps affiliation. In another rumor, I have heard that the Phelps' family lawfirm, Phelps Chartered, is Hobby Lobby's attorney on retainer. So I'm not sure what's true, if any of it.

Can anyone provide some sort of credible citations confirming that Hobby Lobby is indeed associated with the Phelps family or the Westboro Baptist Church? Thanks!

TheMercenary · 12-03-2008, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claudmc

Thanks for this post. I've been trying to find any viable, credible information in print or online that verifies this allegation. I really want to know whether or not this is true or if it's just rumor. If it is, I will definitely stop shopping there. The Phelps clan protested the funeral of my best friend of 10 years who died in Iraq, and I must say my feelings against them are extremely personal. I do know, regarding Hobby Lobby, that its founder and CEO is David Green, who is a member of Assemblies of God and donates & contributes lots of money to them.

http://www.hobbylobby.com/our_compan...any.cfm?page=2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobby_Lobby

Many of the organizations there are affiliated or run by Assemblies of God. Although I definitely do not align myself with the beliefs and practices of this church, this affiliation is less important to me than the alleged Phelps affiliation. In another rumor, I have heard that the Phelps' family lawfirm, Phelps Chartered, is Hobby Lobby's attorney on retainer. So I'm not sure what's true, if any of it.

Can anyone provide some sort of credible citations confirming that Hobby Lobby is indeed associated with the Phelps family or the Westboro Baptist Church? Thanks!

On a related issue, I am a member of this organization:

http://www.patriotguard.org/OurHisto...5/Default.aspx

Urbane Guerrilla · 05-03-2006, 06:20 PM

Well said, NoBoxes. There are persons of that weakness of will here in the Cellar, trying as best they might to persuade the rest of us that their weakness is the path of virtue. They've felt the lash of my displeasure more than once, and they shall continue to suffer until they get their minds right, and there's no more failure to communicate. Or until they depart, taking their noxious, antifreedom, antihuman, pro-oppressor attitudes with them.

In a war, it's dead enemies that saves your skin.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-03-2006, 09:51 PM

I just hope you don't depart as you're always good for a laugh. It relieves the tension of serious discussions.

Kagen4o4 · 05-03-2006, 10:20 PM

that bitch needs to be serious sodemised

05-03-2006, 12:58 AM	#1
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Soldier Funeral Protest This is just wrong no matter what side you are on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G470rfJQCI

05-03-2006, 03:58 AM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I'm really surprised Roper hasn't been hurt by now. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-03-2006, 09:03 AM	#5
billybob pseudointellectual antipodean omnivore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 91	This is not a con. And it's not about the military. The Westboro Baptist Church, led by Fred Phelps is a pseudo-religious anti-gay basketcase. They've been picketing the funerals of gays since 1998. Doesn't matter what walk of life you come from, if you are gay, you are a target for their hatred. They run a website based on the notion that 'God Hates Fags'. Gay-bashing seems to be their whole lives.How sad. If there is a God, I can't imagine that he'd be as intolerant and lacking in human decency as these whackos. __________________ This movie is invisible on any computer that is running pirated software

05-03-2006, 02:57 PM	#9
cowhead halve your cake and eat it too. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Georgia.. by way of Lawrence Kansas Posts: 1,359	coming from lawrence kansas.. a scant 24 miles from phelps.. gotta tell you these whack jobs do more than protest at funerals, they hit anything and everything they don't like or consider to be morally right, I don't know how many plays and music events they have been at, the thing is that it's not a con as far as I can tell, although it is awfully lucrative. and for the record they have been at it longer than '98 that's just when they started getting more national attention for it, and the thing that actually bothers me... (well, the whole thing that bothers me) they protested a friend of mines funeral back in 92' when he died of aids, and have been at it ever since, but it got no real press until phelpsco. started picketing the war dead, and yes it's bullshit. but it's not like this is something new.. gotta say though one of these days someone is going to take his sick ass out.. (heh, I've known a couple of pissed off lesbians who have actually tried to run him over, and afterwards if you'll notice he started shielding himself behind children.. sick fuck) then again it'll put him into some sort of martyr situation. oh and by the by if you're in Kansas and are of the crafty persuasion, hate to say it.. but hobby lobby is a huge financial suporter of the westboro baptist church, may not really make any difference.. but they don't get my money anymore. __________________ no my child.. this is not my desire..I'm digging for fire.

05-03-2006, 06:20 PM	#13
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Well said, NoBoxes. There are persons of that weakness of will here in the Cellar, trying as best they might to persuade the rest of us that their weakness is the path of virtue. They've felt the lash of my displeasure more than once, and they shall continue to suffer until they get their minds right, and there's no more failure to communicate. Or until they depart, taking their noxious, antifreedom, antihuman, pro-oppressor attitudes with them. In a war, it's dead enemies that saves your skin. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

05-03-2006, 04:27 AM	#3
NoBoxes Guest Posts: n/a	The person interviewed, in the link you provided, is just plain nuts (i.e. brainwashed beyond redemption) and doesn't pose any real threat. Forget about that one. Some others who engage in disrupting funerals are Stockholm Syndrome victims. They are sick. War (generally) and terrorism (especially) scares them so badly that they will engage in any conduct, including psychologically aiding and abetting the enemy, which they believe may somehow eventually save their own skins. Many of those who engage in this untoward behavior believe that if they deny the fallen soldiers a hero's funeral; or, martyrdom, they will suceed in discouraging others from fighting for a cause. They are misguided, they are out of date, war is no longer glamorous to us as it is to our enemy. Studies show that soldiers fight and sacrifice their lives for other reasons. Some seek retaliation against those whom they think are responsible for their own life's difficulties. They are cowards. They know the dead soldiers can no longer speak for themselves. When the going gets tough, the tough get going; but, the weak get brainwashed, sick, misguided, and cowardly. We probably have more weak willed citizens now than at anytime in our history. The rest of us just have to pass new laws to contain them as they find new ways to disgust us. Those who are conscientious objectors and reputable citizens will find more respectable ways to make their positions known.

05-03-2006, 08:48 AM	#4
Jordon Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 93	This is a very straightforward con. All the religious crap is window dressing. They protest any event where they can antagonize someone into physically hitting them. Then they sue. Their group is alway juggling several lawsuits at the same time, and this is how they make their money. Wouldn't be surprised if they were actually all Roma

05-03-2006, 01:48 PM	#8
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	Hey Fred, good to know.

05-03-2006, 09:51 PM	#14
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I just hope you don't depart as you're always good for a laugh. It relieves the tension of serious discussions. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-03-2006, 10:20 PM	#15
Kagen4o4 The Sheriff of Nothingland Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 1,794	that bitch needs to be serious sodemised __________________ something we both can enjoy??

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