Classic Rock Rules!!!

squeedler · 05-04-2006, 09:37 PM

IMO, there's been nothing new in rock music since 1980(ish). No one, but no one has, or will ever, top the pure inventiveness of The Beatles, The Stones, Hendrix, Tull, Zep, The Who, or most of the other greats of the sixties and seventies. Agree? Disagree? Discuss!

xoxoxoBruce · 05-05-2006, 07:40 PM

Disagree. there's plenty new in rock music since the early 80s. It's just not as good.

Guyute · 05-05-2006, 10:10 PM

Man, what a tough thing to say yay or nay. Part of me feels you are so right, that MOST new "Rock" bands are pale imitations of Zep, Floyd, etc. I feel most new bands seem to lack that raw ballsy feel, like Robert Plant's singing, Jimi and Jimmy's playing, or the oh-so-tight David Gilmour's playing.

But, I am currently in the throes of a complete Phish addiction, and I feel Trey is the most inventive, natural guitarist ever. I have been awestruck since 1992 and can't see an end in sight. I am about to buy 4 more live Phish CD's...

squeedler · 05-06-2006, 12:09 AM

xoxo,

Define new. I'm talkin' about "Holy Crap!!!" type of moments, such as when I first heard (pick one) "Led Zeppelin", Jethro Tull's "This Was", "Are You Experienced", "Fresh Cream", shall I go on? I'm talkin' groundbreaking events in rock that survive to this day. Anything "groundbreaking" these days is fleeting, at best.

Guyute,

No offense, but I have never been able to stand noodling jam bands such as The Dead or even Phish. They just do nothing for me. Sorry, man.

Linus · 05-06-2006, 09:45 AM

no doubt.

Classic rock friggin blows my mind sometimes... Heart, CCR, Doobie Bros... C.R.E.A.M., Sabbath... so many i cant remember...but yes... Classic Rock Rocks.

Ibby · 05-06-2006, 11:46 AM

Man, this goes without saying. Pre-90's > Post 80's.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-06-2006, 01:37 PM

Define new? What do I look like, a dictionary?

Every album is new. Every song, or for that matter every performance is new.

My point was, even though I like some of it, I like it in my head not my nutsack. There hasn't been anything since the early 80's that will bring me to my feet with a nutsack-clenching, chest-pounding, hair-on-the-back-of-my-neck-standing, anticipation, with the first few notes.

I've generally attributed this to changes is me, my life, rather than the music degrading. Even though the old music still excites me, it could be the association with the memories generated when the music was new.
Hard to separate Locomotive Breath from the topless barmaid in North Carolina.

lumberjim · 05-06-2006, 02:12 PM

nirvana had that elemental appeal that classic bands had. basic, gutural, honest. that's what i need.

that's why zeppelin speaks to me so. oh, and Jane's addiction. too.

Pangloss62 · 05-06-2006, 02:37 PM

MC5

Stooges

Motorhead

Sex Pistols

999

The Clash

New York Dolls

The Replacements

Buzzcocks

Undertones

Stiff Little Fingers

(early) DEVO

Captain Beefheart

The Fall

05-06-2006, 02:43 PM

I don't agree at all, there has been lots of good newer music. Though I tend to agree, for the most part, there is still plenty of good music out there.
I can't wait for Manson's new album, I also hope that Tracy Chapman puts something out again soon.

WabUfvot5 · 05-06-2006, 10:03 PM

I don't really listen to classic rock much but all genres get stable. That's what makes them genres. A few innovators and lots of bands who branch out from that innovation. As far as metal goes the only groundbreaking thing I've heard lately is a band called Darkspace.

Guyute · 05-06-2006, 10:53 PM

Squeedler,
No offense taken. In my old age I have learned to respect other's opinions... Tho I didn't always!!
Truth be told, the only reason I even got into them is very serendipitous; they opened for Santana in '92 and I was going to see him. I didn't even like their music but I just couldn't take listening to PF any more- Roger Waters made me want to throw myself in front of a bus, despite David Gilmour's unparalleled geetar. Then the next thing I liked one solo, then one stanza of lyrics, and the next thing it's 14 years later and I have 20 of their works, and about to buy 4 more.

I'll be the first to admit that I don't often expose myself to newer bands, just don't have the time or the cash...that's why I don't shit on people (out loud) for their taste.

squeedler · 05-09-2006, 03:57 PM

xoxoxo (aka Webster)

Why yes, yes you do! Just kidding.
The nutsack thing is what I'm talkin' about. I'm not deriding modern rock in all it's genres, in any way. I'm just sayin' that there's nothing "nutsack-clenching" (to coin a phrase! lol) in the last twenty years, about today's music, imo.

Guyute,

I totally know what you mean about exposure, but my eyes and ears are always open through my daughter and other lenses, and I haven't seen anything mindbendingly new. Call me my parents but a lot of rock these days is undistinguishable. I can tell the difference, for the most part between genres, but to me, Nickleback, Puddle of Mud, and so forth sound sadly similar. Am I wrong? (As I duck for cover!!!)

mrnoodle · 05-09-2006, 04:06 PM

My stock answer to all musical questions from the past 2 years or so is:

Porcupine Tree.

Or the Mars Volta if you want to be really proggy and weird.

Trilby · 05-09-2006, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrnoodle

Or the Mars Volta if you want to be really proggy and weird.

I just fell in love with that sentence!

05-04-2006, 09:37 PM	#1
squeedler Squeedlicious! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Between hear and know . . . Posts: 28	Classic Rock Rules!!! IMO, there's been nothing new in rock music since 1980(ish). No one, but no one has, or will ever, top the pure inventiveness of The Beatles, The Stones, Hendrix, Tull, Zep, The Who, or most of the other greats of the sixties and seventies. Agree? Disagree? Discuss! __________________ I'm just sayin' . . .

05-05-2006, 07:40 PM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Disagree. there's plenty new in rock music since the early 80s. It's just not as good. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-05-2006, 10:10 PM	#3
Guyute Gamehenge Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Halifax, NS Posts: 168	Man, what a tough thing to say yay or nay. Part of me feels you are so right, that MOST new "Rock" bands are pale imitations of Zep, Floyd, etc. I feel most new bands seem to lack that raw ballsy feel, like Robert Plant's singing, Jimi and Jimmy's playing, or the oh-so-tight David Gilmour's playing. But, I am currently in the throes of a complete Phish addiction, and I feel Trey is the most inventive, natural guitarist ever. I have been awestruck since 1992 and can't see an end in sight. I am about to buy 4 more live Phish CD's... __________________ It's Really Plain and Easy To See, The Family grows like fungus on a tree.

05-06-2006, 12:09 AM	#4
squeedler Squeedlicious! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Between hear and know . . . Posts: 28	xoxo, Define new. I'm talkin' about "Holy Crap!!!" type of moments, such as when I first heard (pick one) "Led Zeppelin", Jethro Tull's "This Was", "Are You Experienced", "Fresh Cream", shall I go on? I'm talkin' groundbreaking events in rock that survive to this day. Anything "groundbreaking" these days is fleeting, at best. Guyute, No offense, but I have never been able to stand noodling jam bands such as The Dead or even Phish. They just do nothing for me. Sorry, man. __________________ I'm just sayin' . . .

05-06-2006, 09:45 AM	#5
Linus Hey look at me! Join Date: May 2006 Location: KS Posts: 18	no doubt. Classic rock friggin blows my mind sometimes... Heart, CCR, Doobie Bros... C.R.E.A.M., Sabbath... so many i cant remember...but yes... Classic Rock Rocks. __________________ "...Can I start you off with a drink?" "Yes... I'll have a Valium and some Robitussin..."

05-06-2006, 11:46 AM	#6
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	Man, this goes without saying. Pre-90's > Post 80's.

05-06-2006, 01:37 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Define new? What do I look like, a dictionary? Every album is new. Every song, or for that matter every performance is new. My point was, even though I like some of it, I like it in my head not my nutsack. There hasn't been anything since the early 80's that will bring me to my feet with a nutsack-clenching, chest-pounding, hair-on-the-back-of-my-neck-standing, anticipation, with the first few notes. I've generally attributed this to changes is me, my life, rather than the music degrading. Even though the old music still excites me, it could be the association with the memories generated when the music was new. Hard to separate Locomotive Breath from the topless barmaid in North Carolina. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-06-2006, 02:12 PM	#8
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	nirvana had that elemental appeal that classic bands had. basic, gutural, honest. that's what i need. that's why zeppelin speaks to me so. oh, and Jane's addiction. too. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

05-06-2006, 02:37 PM	#9
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	MC5 Stooges Motorhead Sex Pistols 999 The Clash New York Dolls The Replacements Buzzcocks Undertones Stiff Little Fingers (early) DEVO Captain Beefheart The Fall __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

05-06-2006, 02:43 PM	#10
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	I don't agree at all, there has been lots of good newer music. Though I tend to agree, for the most part, there is still plenty of good music out there. I can't wait for Manson's new album, I also hope that Tracy Chapman puts something out again soon.

05-06-2006, 10:03 PM	#11
WabUfvot5 Operations Operative Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 634	I don't really listen to classic rock much but all genres get stable. That's what makes them genres. A few innovators and lots of bands who branch out from that innovation. As far as metal goes the only groundbreaking thing I've heard lately is a band called Darkspace.

05-06-2006, 10:53 PM	#12
Guyute Gamehenge Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Halifax, NS Posts: 168	Squeedler, No offense taken. In my old age I have learned to respect other's opinions... Tho I didn't always!! Truth be told, the only reason I even got into them is very serendipitous; they opened for Santana in '92 and I was going to see him. I didn't even like their music but I just couldn't take listening to PF any more- Roger Waters made me want to throw myself in front of a bus, despite David Gilmour's unparalleled geetar. Then the next thing I liked one solo, then one stanza of lyrics, and the next thing it's 14 years later and I have 20 of their works, and about to buy 4 more. I'll be the first to admit that I don't often expose myself to newer bands, just don't have the time or the cash...that's why I don't shit on people (out loud) for their taste. __________________ It's Really Plain and Easy To See, The Family grows like fungus on a tree.

05-09-2006, 03:57 PM	#13
squeedler Squeedlicious! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Between hear and know . . . Posts: 28	xoxoxo (aka Webster) Why yes, yes you do! Just kidding. The nutsack thing is what I'm talkin' about. I'm not deriding modern rock in all it's genres, in any way. I'm just sayin' that there's nothing "nutsack-clenching" (to coin a phrase! lol) in the last twenty years, about today's music, imo. Guyute, I totally know what you mean about exposure, but my eyes and ears are always open through my daughter and other lenses, and I haven't seen anything mindbendingly new. Call me my parents but a lot of rock these days is undistinguishable. I can tell the difference, for the most part between genres, but to me, Nickleback, Puddle of Mud, and so forth sound sadly similar. Am I wrong? (As I duck for cover!!!) __________________ I'm just sayin' . . .

05-09-2006, 04:06 PM	#14
mrnoodle bent Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: under the weather Posts: 2,656	My stock answer to all musical questions from the past 2 years or so is: Porcupine Tree. Or the Mars Volta if you want to be really proggy and weird. __________________ Sìn a nall na cuaranan sin. -- Cha mhór is fheairrde thu iad, tha iad coltach ri cat air a dhathadh

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