5/30/2006: One way to check a counterfeit

Undertoad · 05-30-2006, 11:37 AM

A reader who I can't map to a username points to this wire shot of one approach to checking for counterfeit bills - they blow 'em up real big and compare section to section. It's a cool picture in any case.

It actually amazes me that someone would go to the trouble of developing a counterfeit bill and not be able to make a perfect copy wrt where the various bits go.

BigV · 05-30-2006, 11:40 AM

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It actually amazes me that someone would go to the trouble of developing a counterfeit bill and not be able to make a perfect copy wrt where the various bits go.

They're on the trail of the dumb/lazy criminals... I reckon the much harder parts to counterfeit are the paper (cotton) with the red and blue threads, the color changing ink, the watermarks, the antipiracy nylon (?) thread, etc. Maybe that's why there's a picture of the "old" hundred.

miss_chance · 05-30-2006, 01:16 PM

It's kind of weird that everyone is wearing the exact same shirt. Maybe they're replicants or counterfits themselves.

LabRat · 05-30-2006, 01:36 PM

It takes 4 people to do this?

wolf · 05-30-2006, 01:41 PM

What I don't get is why they blow the suspect bill up bigger than the exemplars. Wouldn't it make more sense to blow everything up to the same size, otherwise the inspectors could be ruling on artifacts of the zoom rather than problems with the bill?

sandra77 · 05-30-2006, 01:59 PM

[quote=Undertoad]

A reader who I can't map to a username points to this wire shot of one approach to checking for counterfeit bills - they blow 'em up real big and compare section to section. It's a cool picture in any case.

It was me, UnderToad. I don't post very often but I spend lots of time browsing & enjoy every image.

Sorry I don't know how to post to make the quote appear in a little blue box
Sandra

Undertoad · 05-30-2006, 02:15 PM

Thanks for a great image pointer!

capnhowdy · 05-30-2006, 02:25 PM

now all the couterfeiters will have a new technique....... Blow a bill up real big (so they can copy details more thoroughly), print it and shrink it back down.

You can see where they had the blowup folded, so I'm assuming it is made out of fabric of some sort. Cool pic... I'm just not so sure how good the idea is. With all the micro-technology they have now, why not just use a microscope?

Our tax dollars at work. Yada Yada.

Spexxvet · 05-30-2006, 02:29 PM

It looks like it's made up of a bunch of 8X10s.

BigV · 05-30-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by miss_chance

It's kind of weird that everyone is wearing the exact same shirt. Maybe they're replicants or counterfits themselves.

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Originally Posted by LabRat

It takes 4 people to do this?

It is and it doesn't.

Pancake Man · 05-30-2006, 03:48 PM

Our government makes the big money

xoxoxoBruce · 05-30-2006, 06:59 PM

That's a real bill blown up to 400 times actual size. The four people are employees of Matsumura Technology, the leading supplier of counterfeit detectors in the world.

They're checking blown up sections of counterfeit bills against the real deal to make their machines better. Their machines are the worlds best defense against the excellent quality counterfeits coming from North Korea & Russia.

They can check US notes, with 99.5% accuracy, at 0.7 seconds per bill. Other currency, including Euros, take 0.6 seconds per bill.

milkfish · 05-31-2006, 05:26 AM

Does somebody get to take the big bill after they're done with it? Big Ben would be just the right thing to have for a trip to the beach.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-31-2006, 12:32 PM

Or to run up the flagpole.

05-30-2006, 11:37 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	5/30/2006: One way to check a counterfeit A reader who I can't map to a username points to this wire shot of one approach to checking for counterfeit bills - they blow 'em up real big and compare section to section. It's a cool picture in any case. It actually amazes me that someone would go to the trouble of developing a counterfeit bill and not be able to make a perfect copy wrt where the various bits go.

05-30-2006, 01:36 PM	#4
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	It takes 4 people to do this? __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within.

05-30-2006, 01:41 PM	#5
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	What I don't get is why they blow the suspect bill up bigger than the exemplars. Wouldn't it make more sense to blow everything up to the same size, otherwise the inspectors could be ruling on artifacts of the zoom rather than problems with the bill? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

05-30-2006, 02:25 PM	#8
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	now all the couterfeiters will have a new technique....... Blow a bill up real big (so they can copy details more thoroughly), print it and shrink it back down. You can see where they had the blowup folded, so I'm assuming it is made out of fabric of some sort. Cool pic... I'm just not so sure how good the idea is. With all the micro-technology they have now, why not just use a microscope? Our tax dollars at work. Yada Yada. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

05-30-2006, 02:29 PM	#9
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	It looks like it's made up of a bunch of 8X10s. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

05-30-2006, 01:16 PM	#3
miss_chance Resident-in-Training Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 7	It's kind of weird that everyone is wearing the exact same shirt. Maybe they're replicants or counterfits themselves.

05-30-2006, 01:59 PM	#6
sandra77 Antagonistic Antagonist Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 22	[quote=Undertoad] A reader who I can't map to a username points to this wire shot of one approach to checking for counterfeit bills - they blow 'em up real big and compare section to section. It's a cool picture in any case. It was me, UnderToad. I don't post very often but I spend lots of time browsing & enjoy every image. Sorry I don't know how to post to make the quote appear in a little blue box Sandra

05-30-2006, 02:15 PM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Thanks for a great image pointer!

05-30-2006, 03:48 PM	#11
Pancake Man Hand-of-Kindness Extender Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 131	Our government makes the big money __________________ Abandon all hope, o ye who read my posts

05-30-2006, 06:59 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That's a real bill blown up to 400 times actual size. The four people are employees of Matsumura Technology, the leading supplier of counterfeit detectors in the world. They're checking blown up sections of counterfeit bills against the real deal to make their machines better. Their machines are the worlds best defense against the excellent quality counterfeits coming from North Korea & Russia. They can check US notes, with 99.5% accuracy, at 0.7 seconds per bill. Other currency, including Euros, take 0.6 seconds per bill. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-31-2006, 05:26 AM	#13
milkfish A serene breakdown Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern NJ, USA Posts: 266	Does somebody get to take the big bill after they're done with it? Big Ben would be just the right thing to have for a trip to the beach.

05-31-2006, 12:32 PM	#14
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Or to run up the flagpole. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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