goOgLe sHanGhaiED!

snagglefish · 09-09-2002, 08:31 PM

well, not sure if this really qualifies as a 'quality' image or not - just thought it was pretty interesting. as some of you probably know google.com has been blocked by the Great Firewall of China for several days now.

what you probably don't know is that as of yesterday China has hijacked google's DNS out of China. if i type in google.com (i live in shanghai) i am taken to some random search engine that is propogated here.

yesterday it was a site from Peking University, and today it is some clowns called eNet.com.cn

here is the screen shot.

i like the copyright info at bottom.

Undertoad · 09-09-2002, 09:40 PM

Can you get to it via a proxy somewhere?

snagglefish · 09-09-2002, 10:00 PM

yes and no.

if i need to google search right now i go through http://canoe.ca which has a google function that provides me with results. a friend set up a proxy server for me, but since i already need a proxy just to get out of my LAN it isn't useful to me. plus trying to configure things on my chinese language IE is a pain in the ass.

if anyone has the know-how and the want to set up some sort of a proxy where i type the url into a dialogue box and it is served up in a frame that would be wonderful.

in the meantime i am stuck here behind the great firewall of china.

MaggieL · 09-09-2002, 11:47 PM

I had heard that some Chinese folk were using the joke site "Elgoog" to serve as a kind of proxy. The hole may have been plugged by now.

http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/ is a joke site; you ask someone if they've tried the Google mirror site, and point them to it....it's a joke on the work "mirror", of course.

But today they have a plea at the bottom of the page, with a Paypal donation link: "Hosting a Google mirror for 1.3 billion Chinese people isn't cheap. Please help us out with our bandwidth costs."

Nic Name · 09-09-2002, 11:59 PM

As mentioned in another thread:

Quote:

As most of you already know, China has blocked access to Google.

Google is getting all the press, but access is also blocked to altavista.com.

Fortunately, the powers that be in China don't understand the Internet. Access to excellent search engines is still available at www.alltheweb.com and www.vivisimo.com. and www.teoma.com.

From outside the Great Firewall of China, you can test what's blocked and what's not here.

snagglefish · 09-10-2002, 12:27 AM

well elgoog isn't blocked, but it is kind of silly. and either i am an idiot (possible) or else it really isn't linking to google's actual database because my searches aren't turning anything up (spelled forward and backwards).

oh well.

incidently google.com in china now points to cnnavigate.com. seems like they are changing where it is pointing every few hours.

wacky.

ndetroit · 09-10-2002, 12:58 AM

hahahaha...

$28.98 later, and google.cn is all yours, snagglefish... ....

of course... the great firewall of china is likely to block a capitalist credit card transaction like that, too...

hahahaha..

ndetroit · 09-10-2002, 01:01 AM

wow I suck at posting images.. .. ;(

oh well.. ... SORRY to everyone on dialup.. ... ;D

-nd

snagglefish · 09-10-2002, 01:20 AM

well i would register the damn thing if i could *find* a site that does .cn registrations. incidently, google.com.cn is taken.

*s

Nic Name · 09-10-2002, 01:27 AM

No can do: http://www.cnnic.net.cn/e-domain.shtml

snagglefish · 09-10-2002, 01:35 AM

yeah - i think *technically* i should be able to register a .cn top level domain (being that i am a resident here, or a good friend is anyways

, but i suspect that registering the top-level domain is a pain in the ass. i remember when i tried to register a .ca they wanted all sorts of proof of ownership of trademark and whatnot.

oh well.

maybe it will have to be elgoog.com.cn

juju · 09-10-2002, 09:46 AM

Snagglefish, what you need is a unix shell account somewhere outside the firewall. Then you can use lynx to search google yourself.

Or what about an anonymizer? There are lots of those available online. Like maybe http://www.rewebber.de/ or http://www.anonymizer.com/index.shtml?

Also try http://soapclient.com/googlesearch.html.

snagglefish · 09-10-2002, 10:04 PM

rewebber and anonymizier are both blocked, as are most anonymizers that i have tried. soap works though. is there any way to use it to search groups.google....?

MaggieL · 09-10-2002, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snagglefish
well elgoog isn't blocked, but it is kind of silly. and either i am an idiot (possible) or else it really isn't linking to google's actual database because my searches aren't turning anything up (spelled forward and backwards).

Mine seem to work, when spelled backwards. The text box works a little funny because it's right-aligned.

snagglefish · 09-10-2002, 11:16 PM

i am an idiot. i can get it to work now. but it still rather silly. canoe.ca's google doesn't require me to type backwards....but still can't access groups yet....*sigh*......

09-09-2002, 08:31 PM	#1
snagglefish Cantankerous Incantonator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 54	goOgLe sHanGhaiED! well, not sure if this really qualifies as a 'quality' image or not - just thought it was pretty interesting. as some of you probably know google.com has been blocked by the Great Firewall of China for several days now. what you probably don't know is that as of yesterday China has hijacked google's DNS out of China. if i type in google.com (i live in shanghai) i am taken to some random search engine that is propogated here. yesterday it was a site from Peking University, and today it is some clowns called eNet.com.cn here is the screen shot. i like the copyright info at bottom. Attached Images

09-09-2002, 10:00 PM	#3
snagglefish Cantankerous Incantonator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 54	accessing google. yes and no. if i need to google search right now i go through http://canoe.ca which has a google function that provides me with results. a friend set up a proxy server for me, but since i already need a proxy just to get out of my LAN it isn't useful to me. plus trying to configure things on my chinese language IE is a pain in the ass. if anyone has the know-how and the want to set up some sort of a proxy where i type the url into a dialogue box and it is served up in a frame that would be wonderful. in the meantime i am stuck here behind the great firewall of china.

09-09-2002, 11:47 PM	#4
MaggieL in the Hour of Scampering Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Jeffersonville PA (15 mi NW of Philadelphia) Posts: 4,060	I had heard that some Chinese folk were using the joke site "Elgoog" to serve as a kind of proxy. The hole may have been plugged by now. http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/ is a joke site; you ask someone if they've tried the Google mirror site, and point them to it....it's a joke on the work "mirror", of course. But today they have a plea at the bottom of the page, with a Paypal donation link: "Hosting a Google mirror for 1.3 billion Chinese people isn't cheap. Please help us out with our bandwidth costs." __________________ "Neither can his Mind be thought to be in Tune,whose words do jarre; nor his reason In frame, whose sentence is preposterous..."

09-10-2002, 12:27 AM	#6
snagglefish Cantankerous Incantonator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 54	elgoog kinda silly well elgoog isn't blocked, but it is kind of silly. and either i am an idiot (possible) or else it really isn't linking to google's actual database because my searches aren't turning anything up (spelled forward and backwards). oh well. incidently google.com in china now points to cnnavigate.com. seems like they are changing where it is pointing every few hours. wacky.

09-10-2002, 12:58 AM	#7
ndetroit Master Locutor Join Date: May 2001 Location: vancouver Posts: 158	hahahaha... $28.98 later, and google.cn is all yours, snagglefish... .... of course... the great firewall of china is likely to block a capitalist credit card transaction like that, too... hahahaha.. Attached Images

09-09-2002, 09:40 PM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Can you get to it via a proxy somewhere?

09-10-2002, 01:01 AM	#8
ndetroit Master Locutor Join Date: May 2001 Location: vancouver Posts: 158	wow I suck at posting images.. .. ;( oh well.. ... SORRY to everyone on dialup.. ... ;D -nd

09-10-2002, 01:20 AM	#9
snagglefish Cantankerous Incantonator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 54	registering google.cn well i would register the damn thing if i could find a site that does .cn registrations. incidently, google.com.cn is taken. *s

09-10-2002, 01:27 AM	#10
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	No can do: http://www.cnnic.net.cn/e-domain.shtml

09-10-2002, 01:35 AM	#11
snagglefish Cantankerous Incantonator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 54	good thought yeah - i think technically i should be able to register a .cn top level domain (being that i am a resident here, or a good friend is anyways , but i suspect that registering the top-level domain is a pain in the ass. i remember when i tried to register a .ca they wanted all sorts of proof of ownership of trademark and whatnot. oh well. maybe it will have to be elgoog.com.cn

09-10-2002, 09:46 AM	#12
juju no one of consequence Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arkansas Posts: 2,839	Snagglefish, what you need is a unix shell account somewhere outside the firewall. Then you can use lynx to search google yourself. Or what about an anonymizer? There are lots of those available online. Like maybe http://www.rewebber.de/ or http://www.anonymizer.com/index.shtml? Also try http://soapclient.com/googlesearch.html. Last edited by juju; 09-10-2002 at 10:10 AM.

09-10-2002, 10:04 PM	#13
snagglefish Cantankerous Incantonator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 54	blocked, blocked, FREE rewebber and anonymizier are both blocked, as are most anonymizers that i have tried. soap works though. is there any way to use it to search groups.google....?

09-10-2002, 11:16 PM	#15
snagglefish Cantankerous Incantonator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 54	so i am an idiot i am an idiot. i can get it to work now. but it still rather silly. canoe.ca's google doesn't require me to type backwards....but still can't access groups yet....sigh......

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