3/9/2003: DEA closes sites

Undertoad · 03-09-2003, 10:49 AM

This is a news image, not a personal capture. I tried to go to the sites that look like this, but their domain names no longer resolve.

This is what you saw if you visited "pipesforyou.com" or "aheadcase.com" last week after the feds jumped in to stop internet sales of drug paraphernalia.

Serk · 03-09-2003, 11:02 AM

You've gotta go to www.pipesforyou.com , they evidently didn't setup a default DNS IP for just pipesforyou.com.

BTW, www.pipesforyou.com resolves to a A name of www.pipedreams.dea.gov

Oh, and for what it's worth, this makes my blood boil, but I guess I shouldn't be too suprised being under the thumb of the son of the creator of the kinder, gentler police state...

-sigh-

CodeBlue40 · 03-09-2003, 06:57 PM

I'm not a drug user, and I could really care less about the 20 year old "War on Drugs". But this can not be good. It's starting with the DEA closing down sites about drug parephenalia. Before we know it, Fark.com will have a similar sign and Curtis will have a goddamned needle in his arm.

bjlhct · 03-09-2003, 08:05 PM

Not that http://cryptome.org/stego-pal.htm is there anymore.

Slight · 03-09-2003, 11:58 PM

Well at least the rest of us americans have the first amendment right to free <end transmission>

jaguar · 03-10-2003, 05:34 AM

isonews.com
Of course everyone just gets to it by IP now, and thus feels more l33t.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-10-2003, 02:38 PM

BASTARDS

russotto · 03-10-2003, 03:22 PM

21 USC 853(e)(1)
Upon application of the United States, the court may enter a restraining order or injunction, require the execution of a satisfactory performance bond, or take any other action to preserve the availability of property described in subsection (a) of this section for forfeiture under this section -

(A)

upon the filing of an indictment or information charging a violation of this subchapter or subchapter II of this chapter for which criminal forfeiture may be ordered under this section and alleging that the property with respect to which the order is sought would, in the event of conviction, be subject to forfeiture under this section; or

------
That's right -- there's been no conviction of any sort. This is a frigging _restraining order_ not based on the content of the site, but based on the idea that the property MIGHT be taken under criminal forfeiture provisions.

goethean · 03-11-2003, 09:56 AM

Can't you use a bong to smoke tobacco?

Doesn't this fact render this action illegal?

Griff · 03-11-2003, 11:20 AM

Sorry g this one goes under the Thought Crime subsection. They know the intentions of the buyers. This will prove very useful for the war on terror, all multiple use information or technology is forbidden.

chrisinhouston · 03-12-2003, 11:28 AM

It just feels so comforting to see the stars and stripes in the background, like they are looking out for me.

Griff · 03-12-2003, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisinhouston
It just feels so comforting to see the stars and stripes in the background, like they are looking ... for me.

Riddil · 03-12-2003, 12:47 PM

My god...

I posted this same thing in another forum, and was immediately attacked by people saying, "well, if they weren't doing anything illegal then they wouldn't have been shut down"... and "the only thing you can use those for is illegal stuff, so it doesn't matter"...

So suddenly I'm the bad guy for pointing out that it may not be exactly legal to arbitrarily shut down these sites w/o any sort of legal backing.

*smack head*

03-12-2003, 12:50 PM

Eh, it's big in eastern Asia and the Middle East to smoke tobacco through water pipes...

It's kinda shaky ground anyway, I think. There shouldn't be any in the first place, because the War on Drugs is a silly idea.

Taking the domains is a rather lame action, though. All it does is make the sites moderately more difficult to get to.

jaguar · 03-12-2003, 04:14 PM

Smoking tobacco though water pipes is VERY popular in many middle eastern countries, turkey particualry if i rememeber correctly. There is also this wierd fruit based stuff they smoke, it's a bit of tobacco, molassas and dried fruit stuff, comes in apple, rasberry etc, VERY nice *ahem*.

No, i don't smoke dope, enver have, never will.

Water pipes do differ a little in design though, the long pipe bit for example....I'm sure people smoke dope thought those too though.

Maybe the idea is they can raid muslims and arrest them for drug use.

03-09-2003, 10:49 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	3/9/2003: DEA closes sites This is a news image, not a personal capture. I tried to go to the sites that look like this, but their domain names no longer resolve. This is what you saw if you visited "pipesforyou.com" or "aheadcase.com" last week after the feds jumped in to stop internet sales of drug paraphernalia.

03-09-2003, 11:02 AM	#2
Serk So liberal, he's conservative. Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rowlett, TX Posts: 20	You've gotta go to www.pipesforyou.com , they evidently didn't setup a default DNS IP for just pipesforyou.com. BTW, www.pipesforyou.com resolves to a A name of www.pipedreams.dea.gov Oh, and for what it's worth, this makes my blood boil, but I guess I shouldn't be too suprised being under the thumb of the son of the creator of the kinder, gentler police state... -sigh- __________________ Never ask a geek 'Why'. Just nod your head and slowly back away. -Rob Malda

03-09-2003, 06:57 PM	#3
CodeBlue40 Disorderly Disciplinarian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 21	I'm not a drug user, and I could really care less about the 20 year old "War on Drugs". But this can not be good. It's starting with the DEA closing down sites about drug parephenalia. Before we know it, Fark.com will have a similar sign and Curtis will have a goddamned needle in his arm. __________________ I'm in a world full of naked women and daisies! Nothing can harm me now!

03-09-2003, 08:05 PM	#4
bjlhct Theremin Master Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 73	Next stop, cryptome.org Not that http://cryptome.org/stego-pal.htm is there anymore.

03-10-2003, 05:34 AM	#6
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	isonews.com Of course everyone just gets to it by IP now, and thus feels more l33t. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

03-09-2003, 11:58 PM	#5
Slight Semi-Evil Genius Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Boulder CO Posts: 195	Well at least the rest of us americans have the first amendment right to free <end transmission>

03-10-2003, 02:38 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	BASTARDS

03-10-2003, 03:22 PM	#8
russotto Professor Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,788	The code in question 21 USC 853(e)(1) Upon application of the United States, the court may enter a restraining order or injunction, require the execution of a satisfactory performance bond, or take any other action to preserve the availability of property described in subsection (a) of this section for forfeiture under this section - (A) upon the filing of an indictment or information charging a violation of this subchapter or subchapter II of this chapter for which criminal forfeiture may be ordered under this section and alleging that the property with respect to which the order is sought would, in the event of conviction, be subject to forfeiture under this section; or ------ That's right -- there's been no conviction of any sort. This is a frigging _restraining order_ not based on the content of the site, but based on the idea that the property MIGHT be taken under criminal forfeiture provisions.

03-11-2003, 09:56 AM	#9
goethean ethics evolve. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 60	Can't you use a bong to smoke tobacco? Doesn't this fact render this action illegal?

03-11-2003, 11:20 AM	#10
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Sorry g this one goes under the Thought Crime subsection. They know the intentions of the buyers. This will prove very useful for the war on terror, all multiple use information or technology is forbidden. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-12-2003, 11:28 AM	#11
chrisinhouston Professor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,857	It just feels so comforting to see the stars and stripes in the background, like they are looking out for me.

03-12-2003, 12:47 PM	#13
Riddil Management Consultant Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 165	My god... I posted this same thing in another forum, and was immediately attacked by people saying, "well, if they weren't doing anything illegal then they wouldn't have been shut down"... and "the only thing you can use those for is illegal stuff, so it doesn't matter"... So suddenly I'm the bad guy for pointing out that it may not be exactly legal to arbitrarily shut down these sites w/o any sort of legal backing. smack head

03-12-2003, 12:50 PM	#14
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Eh, it's big in eastern Asia and the Middle East to smoke tobacco through water pipes... It's kinda shaky ground anyway, I think. There shouldn't be any in the first place, because the War on Drugs is a silly idea. Taking the domains is a rather lame action, though. All it does is make the sites moderately more difficult to get to.

03-12-2003, 04:14 PM	#15
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Smoking tobacco though water pipes is VERY popular in many middle eastern countries, turkey particualry if i rememeber correctly. There is also this wierd fruit based stuff they smoke, it's a bit of tobacco, molassas and dried fruit stuff, comes in apple, rasberry etc, VERY nice ahem. No, i don't smoke dope, enver have, never will. Water pipes do differ a little in design though, the long pipe bit for example....I'm sure people smoke dope thought those too though. Maybe the idea is they can raid muslims and arrest them for drug use. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

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