What do you think about the Gay Marriage

Billy · 03-04-2004, 03:52 AM

I happened to see one gay marriage pic fron the web. I think the Gay should have their right to have the normal life as us. But it is very diffficult for Many Chinese to recieve the idea. I know that there are many gay people in China now. They are discriminated in law and social life. It is a sensitive topic in China. One my workmate was fired for the thing. He was a supervisor in my company. He loved and had sex with a lower leve straight man who want to get a higher position. The later guy appealed it to company after he got the position. So all company knew the supervisor gay and speak bad to him. finally, he was fired. The thing has the heavy influence in company.

I know it is more open in the west. The gays have tried to strive for the freedorm as the heterosexual people. What do you think about it?

xoxoxoBruce · 03-04-2004, 04:52 AM

Billy, we talked this over pretty well here but I was very interested to read what's going on over there. So your company has set a policy against homosexuals? Did they put it in writing? Are other companies doing the same thing?

Happy Monkey · 03-04-2004, 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by Billy
I know it is open in the west. The gay have freedorm as the heterosexual people.

No they don't. Not yet. But they're trying, and so are many of the rest of us.

Billy · 03-04-2004, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xoxoxoBruce
So your company has set a policy against homosexuals? Did they put it in writing? Are other companies doing the same thing?

The company don't set the plociy in rule. I heard the similar things in other companies.

ladysycamore · 03-04-2004, 10:26 AM

This is clearly a human rights issue, as far as I'm concerned. I believe that the mayor of San Francisco asked why can't gay and lesbian couples be entitled to the same rights as a married couple as he and his wife?

I have yet to hear the answer to THAT question.

'INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE' Martin Luther King, Jr.

Dagney · 03-04-2004, 07:14 PM

I look at it this way...

They're 'first class citizens' when it comes to all the stuff that the rest of us have to do...pay taxes, etc...but when it comes to those things that are needed to protect the one that you love...they become second class citizens...

Don't we have more important things to worry about than if Steve and Earl get married?

Like the millions of illegal immigrants that are in this country?
Our messed up health care system that is about as far from logic as one can get...(Ie state funded health care plans that will pay for viagra, but not birth control)
The fact that there are hundreds (if not thousands) of teachers, teaching the leaders of tomorrow, and they can barely write a proposal for funding, making sure the grammar is correct, and using the handy new tool...spell check.

I think it's a case of 'the squeaky wheel gets the grease'...and the Fundamental Xtian right seems to be yelling quite loudly...
If more people who disagreed with those views got of their arse and voted, the 'powers that be' would actually be concerned with being voted out of office if they didn't please the constituents.

My own personal opinion...if you don't vote, you have no right to bitch about the handbasket we're in - or the side trip to hell we're taking.

Dagney

Wonderbat · 03-06-2004, 01:48 AM

Billy, sometimes it seems (to me) that people in other countries believe that Americans tolerate homosexuality more than we actually do. I'm not trying to say that YOU specifically make me think that... but America definitely has people on both sides of the issue.

Then again, with some of the things that the current government says, maybe people in other countries don't think we're so... accepting... anymore.

At any rate, I'd like everyone's opinion on this idea (which I've gotta credit to a friend of mine)... I apologize if it was already brought up in the other gay marriage thread...

What if the government did NOTHING but civil unions... whether for gay or straight people? And MARRIAGE was purely something done by the church?

Then, for all government matters, everyone would be equal. (It should therefore become illegal to discriminate against married gays, because that would be a religion-related status.) Gays could still marry, provided they went to a church which would marry them (and these already exist... Unitarian, etc.).

In other words, separation of marriage and state. Opinions?

Billy · 03-06-2004, 06:04 AM

The thing is very sensitive in China. In 2001, Mao Ning, one China Singing Idol, was found that he had some Money Boys by the media. Mao did not give his sex partners money and beat them. So the repoters cannot understand the things and tracked the stories. So they showed the stories in ewspaper. Then almost of Chinese Media criticized the homosexuality. Mao stopped his singing for that.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-06-2004, 08:44 AM

Wonderbat, the problem is marriage is intrinsic to so many of our laws. It would mean a major revamping of the law library.

lumberjim · 03-07-2004, 01:36 AM

welcome purple muffs

PurpleMuffs · 03-07-2004, 01:40 AM

This is my girlfriend and I, Americans. George W Bush can suck my Tinky Winky.

lumberjim · 03-07-2004, 01:44 AM

try that again. but make it smaller

PurpleMuffs · 03-07-2004, 01:59 AM

here we are

xoxoxoBruce · 03-07-2004, 02:08 AM

No you aren't.

Billy · 03-08-2004, 05:58 AM

Would you marry with your partner if you was a gay?

03-04-2004, 03:52 AM	#1
Billy Professor Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 1,462	What do you think about the Gay Marriage I happened to see one gay marriage pic fron the web. I think the Gay should have their right to have the normal life as us. But it is very diffficult for Many Chinese to recieve the idea. I know that there are many gay people in China now. They are discriminated in law and social life. It is a sensitive topic in China. One my workmate was fired for the thing. He was a supervisor in my company. He loved and had sex with a lower leve straight man who want to get a higher position. The later guy appealed it to company after he got the position. So all company knew the supervisor gay and speak bad to him. finally, he was fired. The thing has the heavy influence in company. I know it is more open in the west. The gays have tried to strive for the freedorm as the heterosexual people. What do you think about it? Attached Images Last edited by Billy; 03-04-2004 at 08:06 AM.

03-04-2004, 04:52 AM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Billy, we talked this over pretty well here but I was very interested to read what's going on over there. So your company has set a policy against homosexuals? Did they put it in writing? Are other companies doing the same thing? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-04-2004, 10:26 AM	#5
ladysycamore "I may not always be perfect, but I'm always me." Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In Sycamore's boxers Posts: 1,341	This is clearly a human rights issue, as far as I'm concerned. I believe that the mayor of San Francisco asked why can't gay and lesbian couples be entitled to the same rights as a married couple as he and his wife? I have yet to hear the answer to THAT question. 'INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE' Martin Luther King, Jr. __________________ "Freedom is not given. It is our right at birth. But there are some moments when it must be taken." ~Tagline from the movie "Amistad"~ "The Akan concept of Sankofa: In order to move forward we first have to take a step back. In other words, before we can be prepared for the future, we must comprehend the past." From "We Did It, They Hid It"

03-04-2004, 07:14 PM	#6
Dagney The Prodigal Brat Returneth Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: North Cackalacky Posts: 1,107	I look at it this way... They're 'first class citizens' when it comes to all the stuff that the rest of us have to do...pay taxes, etc...but when it comes to those things that are needed to protect the one that you love...they become second class citizens... Don't we have more important things to worry about than if Steve and Earl get married? Like the millions of illegal immigrants that are in this country? Our messed up health care system that is about as far from logic as one can get...(Ie state funded health care plans that will pay for viagra, but not birth control) The fact that there are hundreds (if not thousands) of teachers, teaching the leaders of tomorrow, and they can barely write a proposal for funding, making sure the grammar is correct, and using the handy new tool...spell check. I think it's a case of 'the squeaky wheel gets the grease'...and the Fundamental Xtian right seems to be yelling quite loudly... If more people who disagreed with those views got of their arse and voted, the 'powers that be' would actually be concerned with being voted out of office if they didn't please the constituents. My own personal opinion...if you don't vote, you have no right to bitch about the handbasket we're in - or the side trip to hell we're taking. Dagney __________________ The Constitution gives every American the right to make a total fool out of himself. But that doesn't mean you need to.

03-06-2004, 08:44 AM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Wonderbat, the problem is marriage is intrinsic to so many of our laws. It would mean a major revamping of the law library. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-06-2004, 01:48 AM	#7
Wonderbat Topo Chico Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 5	Billy, sometimes it seems (to me) that people in other countries believe that Americans tolerate homosexuality more than we actually do. I'm not trying to say that YOU specifically make me think that... but America definitely has people on both sides of the issue. Then again, with some of the things that the current government says, maybe people in other countries don't think we're so... accepting... anymore. At any rate, I'd like everyone's opinion on this idea (which I've gotta credit to a friend of mine)... I apologize if it was already brought up in the other gay marriage thread... What if the government did NOTHING but civil unions... whether for gay or straight people? And MARRIAGE was purely something done by the church? Then, for all government matters, everyone would be equal. (It should therefore become illegal to discriminate against married gays, because that would be a religion-related status.) Gays could still marry, provided they went to a church which would marry them (and these already exist... Unitarian, etc.). In other words, separation of marriage and state. Opinions?

03-06-2004, 06:04 AM	#8
Billy Professor Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 1,462	The thing is very sensitive in China. In 2001, Mao Ning, one China Singing Idol, was found that he had some Money Boys by the media. Mao did not give his sex partners money and beat them. So the repoters cannot understand the things and tracked the stories. So they showed the stories in ewspaper. Then almost of Chinese Media criticized the homosexuality. Mao stopped his singing for that.

03-07-2004, 01:36 AM	#10
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	welcome purple muffs __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-07-2004, 01:40 AM	#11
PurpleMuffs Neophyte-in-training Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3	My answer This is my girlfriend and I, Americans. George W Bush can suck my Tinky Winky. Attached Images

03-07-2004, 01:44 AM	#12
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	try that again. but make it smaller __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

03-07-2004, 01:59 AM	#13
PurpleMuffs Neophyte-in-training Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3	here we are

03-07-2004, 02:08 AM	#14
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No you aren't. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-08-2004, 05:58 AM	#15
Billy Professor Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 1,462	Would you marry with your partner if you was a gay?

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