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Old 08-10-2005, 12:55 PM   #46
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Mari, I know that you, or others are likely to bust my shoes over this comment, but ...

you're awfully picky and elitist (free range chickens and eggs) for someone who says they've had to/been close to eating out of dumpsters.
Nah, I never said I was close to eating out of dumpsters. I've had to go to food banks in the past, but never dumpsters. One thing about this country is that there are many places where low income people can go get food donated by charities for free or at low cost. Here in Colorado we have something called Care and Share where you donate an hour or two a week to helping out and can get very good food, including fresh produce and meat and eggs, at half price.

If you ever visted a chicken factory, you'd be "picky and elistist", too. When I can't afford free range, I do without. Usually the eggs will go on sale at some point and I'll buy a couple of cartons then.
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:16 PM   #47
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:31 PM   #48
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:44 PM   #49
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Old 08-15-2005, 04:46 PM   #50
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I visited one of those chicken "factory" type farms once. It was horrifying. Put me off chicken for an entire year. Now I eat chicken and eggs again, but only "free range" ones. PETA should work to effect changes like that and not use concentration camp victims or the mis-treatment of black Americans and compare these atrocities to chickens.
Fast Food Nation anyone? If anything, that is what PETA should be against. Not people eating animals. If people don't kill the animal humanely, it's going to die a slow death by being picked by vultures and other scavangers.

I myself always found PETA to be condescending in a weird sort of way. From my view, they want equality for animals, no? Then why is it that people can't eat meat then? Other animals eat meat. We are like animals. So why can't we eat meat? It seems they view people above animals because we can chose not to eat other animals, which says we are above other animals, which is completely against equality.

And we all love their posters. Next big gathering they have, I wouldn't be suprised if they equated lab testing to partial birth abortion.

It's as if they want people to disband all civilization. Animals are nusances sometimes, such as chewing through electrical wires or getting stuck in transformers. I guess that's our fault for creating such a network that eases our lives.
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Old 08-15-2005, 05:47 PM   #51
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Nude protester here in KC today. Barnum and Bailey's is coming to town, and PETA was here to protest the "enslavement and torture" of elephants. Yes, they did float the slavery comparison.

Once I again, I applaud PETA for their ongoing efforts to put lovely young women wearing only their panties out in the public eye for me to admire. Viva la protest! Freedom of Speech! Yay!

Back to my yummy steak dinner, now.
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:33 PM   #52
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Man, those burgers were so tasty. And the lamb's blood I drank for dinner ran thick with clotty fats. And for desert, I ate a goat's skull.

Not really, but, had PETV known of my plans to fry onions on the grill, they'd have had me killed faster than... a cow munching grass.
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Old 08-16-2005, 01:32 AM   #53
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And we all love their posters. Next big gathering they have, I wouldn't be suprised if they equated lab testing to partial birth abortion.
I think they support partial birth abortion, unless it involves cats.
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Old 08-16-2005, 10:36 AM   #54
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No, I mean equate partial birth abortion to something like slaughtering cows. Say that the way a fetus was destroyed via PBA is the same as slitting a cows throat.

And yes, they probably would support it.
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Old 08-16-2005, 01:23 PM   #55
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(I was making fun of PETA, not questioning you ... I would expect that kind of advertising from them as well. Or perhaps some stock footage from one of those Sally Struthers/children starving in Africa commericials. With the flies. Gotta have the flies.)
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Old 08-16-2005, 01:56 PM   #56
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Yea... and lots of garbage picking. And then they'll show a picture of a beaver at a dam. And say that becuase of human advancement, this beaver has been forced to make his dam out of disposed plastics and garbage. And then flash forward to a dam made out of garbage.

And somehow they'd manage to give the image that flies eating African children is unethical... to the flies, that is. Somehow they'd portray some sort of idea of the "flies deserving better".
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Old 08-16-2005, 10:58 PM   #57
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I'm pretty sure PETA would be okay if we'd all just kill ourselves and let the buzzards feast on our rotting carcasses. Well, non-vegetarians, anyway.
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Old 08-17-2005, 12:00 AM   #58
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Yes, it would be unethical if somehow we disrupted the food chain. Although the food chain is disrupted everyday by creatures not of the human species.
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Old 08-17-2005, 10:34 AM   #59
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I don't see anyone jumping to PETA's defense here -- not saying you animal rights ppl are cowards or anything.

Okay, I'll defend your position. I'll even try to win.
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We are trying to make a point here. We find the use of animals to be equally degrading and cruel as the "use" of people without their consent. If you don't like the imagery we use, too damn bad.

Just because a cow can't verbalize its feelings doesn't mean it doesn't have any. Pain is pain, regardless. You're not claiming that the animals you slaughter don't feel pain, you're simply ignoring the fact because you don't want to change your lifestyle. A black man hanging from a tree bothers you, but a deer hanging there doesn't. Both were alive, both felt the pain of their passing.

It's pretty easy, actually. No living thing should have to suffer so that you can wear its skin or eat its meat. Humans possess the capability to save life and to avoid hurting others; forgive us, animal friends, for our failure to do so.

Abortion is okay, because that's feminist.
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Old 08-17-2005, 11:41 AM   #60
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The way I see it, animals are living things that depend on consuming other living things for survival. The animal world is broken down into these categories: Animals that eat other animals are carnivores, omnivores eat other animals and plants, and herbivores eat just plant. Humans are animals, we are omnivores, that is how we are designed/evolved/whatever, nature is cruel and life survives off of death. However this is not to say that I agree with the inhumane ways of treating/killing animals to feed the population, but for some say that eating animals is wrong period, just seems absurd to me. I know its a lifestyle, and its just a personal choice, I just can't see the logic behind it.

Maybe I just like my hamburgers too much
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