Which is more evil? - Page 2

xoxoxoBruce · 12-09-2005, 08:29 PM

We've been through why such a law or amendment won't work before. But just taking the burn part, burning is the proscribed way to dispose of a flag.
So in order to prosecute, intent has to be proven....like hate crimes. That's a very slippery slope.

tw · 12-10-2005, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

cannon fodder? well, i guess i've signed up to be cannon fodder for the last 13 years(although January 12th will bring the end of my military career). i don't think i'm the most stupid individual on the planet.

The smart soldier is not cannon fodder. Flags are but one tool so that cannon fodder can be directed into their hell. As Patton said, the other soldier should die for his country. Unfortunately, every nation at some time needs some cannon fodder. Flags are but one tool to recruit and direct those types into a frontal assault.

The smart soldier also knows the difference between a flag and a country.

footfootfoot · 12-10-2005, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512

Huh?

dar512! And you; a musician. I'm shocked.

SmurfAbuser · 12-11-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by marichiko

I think that all flags wrapped around politicians should be burned!

I like that idea!

Dangerous subject either way. Burning the flag is inherently obscene to me, but I still think people should have the right to do so if it makes 'em happy. Tough call.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-12-2005, 09:06 PM

This site explains why an amendment or law against flag burning will not work. Can't be enforced. Is a huge warm and fuzzy joke.

dar512 · 12-13-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

dar512! And you; a musician. I'm shocked.

Rap is not music.

Entertainment? Yes.

Art form? Possibly.

Music? No.

But thanks for the link. Now I know.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-13-2005, 07:24 PM

I second that.

footfootfoot · 12-13-2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dar512

Rap is not music.

Entertainment? Yes.

Art form? Possibly.

Music? No.

But thanks for the link. Now I know.

Yeah, well true. But the joke would have been too cumbersome if I tried to acknowledge that fact.

In fact, I question its entertainment potential.

capnhowdy · 12-18-2005, 01:57 PM

Other than a quick-fix for some rebellious attention whore, what could possibly be gratifying about burning a flag, anyway?

I say let the people who feel compelled to burn flags go ahead, spend their life savings on flags and burn as many as they can afford.

Just leave mine alone.

After the flag is burned, there is no way to tell what it represented anyway. It is not the flag that makes a country strong, but the people who fly them.

Beestie · 12-18-2005, 06:30 PM

There is nothing whatsoever wrong about burning a flag.

Interesting that many of those who oppose burning the flag have no problem suspending the provisions of the Constitution because they are too lazy/stupid/wrong to go through the Constitutional provisions to fight the "war on terror."

In other words, If *I* violate the Constitution its "for your your own good" so its ok but if you torch a symbol of the Constitution without actually violating any of its provisions then its off to pound-you-in-the-ass prison for you.

Spexxvet · 12-20-2005, 12:40 PM

Imagine the consternation of the right wing when the "activist judges" on the Supreme Court rule the law unconstitutional.

12-20-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Imagine the consternation of the right wing when the "activist judges" on the Supreme Court rule the law unconstitutional.

Imagine your consternation as your toilet seat slaps you on the back of your neck as you're getting a drink.

capnhowdy · 12-20-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Imagine the consternation of the right wing when the "activist judges" on the Supreme Court rule the law unconstitutional.

And it could very well happen, laying all jokes aside. Nothing surprises me anymore.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-20-2005, 06:23 PM

They would then make it a campaign donation rallying point.

Spexxvet · 12-21-2005, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

They would then make it a campaign donation rallying point.

The conservative right will rally to support a law introduced by Hillary Clinton? Now THAT's priceless.

12-09-2005, 08:29 PM	#16
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	We've been through why such a law or amendment won't work before. But just taking the burn part, burning is the proscribed way to dispose of a flag. So in order to prosecute, intent has to be proven....like hate crimes. That's a very slippery slope. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-12-2005, 09:06 PM	#20
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	This site explains why an amendment or law against flag burning will not work. Can't be enforced. Is a huge warm and fuzzy joke. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-13-2005, 07:24 PM	#22
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I second that. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-18-2005, 01:57 PM	#24
capnhowdy Blatantly Homosapien Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,200	Other than a quick-fix for some rebellious attention whore, what could possibly be gratifying about burning a flag, anyway? I say let the people who feel compelled to burn flags go ahead, spend their life savings on flags and burn as many as they can afford. Just leave mine alone. After the flag is burned, there is no way to tell what it represented anyway. It is not the flag that makes a country strong, but the people who fly them. __________________ Please type slowly. I can't read very fast............... and no holy water, please.

12-18-2005, 06:30 PM	#25
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	There is nothing whatsoever wrong about burning a flag. Interesting that many of those who oppose burning the flag have no problem suspending the provisions of the Constitution because they are too lazy/stupid/wrong to go through the Constitutional provisions to fight the "war on terror." In other words, If I violate the Constitution its "for your your own good" so its ok but if you torch a symbol of the Constitution without actually violating any of its provisions then its off to pound-you-in-the-ass prison for you. __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

12-20-2005, 12:40 PM	#26
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Imagine the consternation of the right wing when the "activist judges" on the Supreme Court rule the law unconstitutional. __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

12-20-2005, 06:23 PM	#29
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	They would then make it a campaign donation rallying point. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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