The Vital Difference

fargon · 05-20-2007, 09:38 AM

Ibram, I am a Right Wing Crazy. And I believe that if you want to be Gay, if that's what makes you happy then do it. Just don't do in my face.
Concerning drugs, legalize God's weed. Cocaine, heroine, and others in that category, death by punga.
Please Ibram, keep your liberal laws and taxes off my a$$.
Remember, We are all God's creations and are supposed to Love each other.
Thank You for allowing my rant. Love Terry

Ibby · 05-20-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fargon

Ibram, I am a Right Wing Crazy. And I believe that if you want to be Gay, if that's what makes you happy then do it. Just don't do in my face.
Concerning drugs, legalize God's weed. Cocaine, heroine, and others in that category, death by punga.
Please Ibram, keep your liberal laws and taxes off my a$$.
Remember, We are all God's creations and are supposed to Love each other.
Thank You for allowing my rant. Love Terry

1.) As long as you have the right to be straight any way you want to be and anywhere you want to be, I have the same right to be queer.

2.) That is exactly what I mean by authoritarianism and fascism. Banning things, making things that hurt nobody else illegal.

3.)The thing is... a liberal law is a lack of a law. A liberal law is saying you CAN do something if you want to, but not that you HAVE to or CAN'T.

Now, before any of you right-wingers start bitching about gun control - I'm pro gun rights. That's the one weak point of the Democrats, compared to the Republicans. But it's the only, ONLY point on which the right isn't far-and-away more authoritarian than the left.

Griff · 05-20-2007, 12:58 PM

Here's the thing Ibby, when I was a kid the left was where the real threat of totalitarianism resided. Inside the States, people were hamstrung by regulation and outside the States the Russians were working their mojo. Things were a little different in South America where all flavors of totalitarian were at each other's throats. You are correct that today the American Right is nurturing fascism. This may largely be a result of the old red scare times, when they jettisoned conservatism. I'd say that for now hold the right's feet to the fire, but keep an eye on the left, nobody did totalitarianism like Pol Pot and Uncle Joe Stalin.

richlevy · 05-20-2007, 10:11 PM

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but keep an eye on the left, nobody did totalitarianism like Pol Pot and Uncle Joe Stalin.

Except for Hitler whose party ran as right-wing law and order nationalistic anti-communists.

Authoritarian left and authoritarian right are the difference between freezing to death and burning to death, the end result is the same.

TheMercenary · 05-20-2007, 10:13 PM

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Except for Hitler whose party ran as right-wing law and order nationalistic anti-communists.

Authoritarian left and authoritarian right are the difference between freezing to death and burning to death, the end result is the same.

You have a point. Hitler was not the only one. How about Pol Pot?

Spexxvet · 05-20-2007, 06:25 PM

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1.) ... But it's the only, ONLY point on which the right isn't far-and-away more authoritarian than the left.

What about the mandatory abortions the liberals want to impose?

Bullitt · 05-20-2007, 06:56 PM

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2.) That is exactly what I mean by authoritarianism and fascism. Banning things, making things that hurt nobody else illegal.

You're kidding me right? I guess I forgot that the drug trade is a completely benevolent one. It would be nice to think that everyone who uses drugs are just fun loving hippies sitting in a campfire circle, everything is hunky dory. That's a fairytale.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-20-2007, 07:38 PM

You're right about drugs ruining some peoples lives, Bullitt. But that's not the biggest burden drugs put on society. It's the crime that stems from trying to pay for those drugs after they have been driven underground and the prices climb. And the gang wars to control those profits.
We clearly need a different approach, this one hasn't done dick, for us.

Bullitt · 05-20-2007, 08:49 PM

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You're right about drugs ruining some peoples lives, Bullitt. But that's not the biggest burden drugs put on society. It's the crime that stems from trying to pay for those drugs after they have been driven underground and the prices climb. And the gang wars to control those profits.
We clearly need a different approach, this one hasn't done dick, for us.

Exactly. We are getting nowhere with our current strategy against hardcore drugs, or the casual users for that matter. It's just the prohibition era all over again in some respects.

TheMercenary · 05-20-2007, 08:51 PM

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Exactly. We are getting nowhere with our current strategy against hardcore drugs, or the casual users for that matter. It's just the prohibition era all over again in some respects.

No doubt. So let's just legalize it and regulate it. And tax the hell out of it!

lumberjim · 05-20-2007, 08:37 PM

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3.)The thing is... a liberal law is a lack of a law. A liberal law is saying you CAN do something if you want to, but not that you HAVE to or CAN'T.

i think you're all fucked up with this perception.

05-20-2007, 09:38 AM	#1
fargon Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: La Crosse, WI Posts: 8,924	Ibram, I am a Right Wing Crazy. And I believe that if you want to be Gay, if that's what makes you happy then do it. Just don't do in my face. Concerning drugs, legalize God's weed. Cocaine, heroine, and others in that category, death by punga. Please Ibram, keep your liberal laws and taxes off my a$$. Remember, We are all God's creations and are supposed to Love each other. Thank You for allowing my rant. Love Terry __________________ Annoy the ones that ignore you!!! I live a blessed life I Love my Country, I Fear the Government!!! Heavily medicated for the good of mankind.

05-20-2007, 12:58 PM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Here's the thing Ibby, when I was a kid the left was where the real threat of totalitarianism resided. Inside the States, people were hamstrung by regulation and outside the States the Russians were working their mojo. Things were a little different in South America where all flavors of totalitarian were at each other's throats. You are correct that today the American Right is nurturing fascism. This may largely be a result of the old red scare times, when they jettisoned conservatism. I'd say that for now hold the right's feet to the fire, but keep an eye on the left, nobody did totalitarianism like Pol Pot and Uncle Joe Stalin. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

05-20-2007, 07:38 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	You're right about drugs ruining some peoples lives, Bullitt. But that's not the biggest burden drugs put on society. It's the crime that stems from trying to pay for those drugs after they have been driven underground and the prices climb. And the gang wars to control those profits. We clearly need a different approach, this one hasn't done dick, for us. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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