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Undertoad · 12-29-2008, 01:09 PM

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In retrospect, since we're doing that instead, hating Bush was the right thing to do.

Is that according to your PERCEPTION (i.e., your directly witnessed evidence) or the general PERCEPTION (i.e., a popular understanding of the truth)?

The general PERCEPTION is that Brittany Spears is the most fascinating human being on the planet.

classicman · 12-29-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

The general PERCEPTION is that Brittany Spears is the most fascinating human being on the planet.

/sar/ You mean she isn't? /casm/

Shawnee123 · 12-29-2008, 02:12 PM

The perception of the PRESENT state of the economy, or the PAST cheating of the system, are infinitely more verifiable than what will happen in the FUTURE.

But again, you are pushing my buttons, I am letting you, so who's the bonehead here? I don't know you well, but I think I know you well enough to think that you are not one to typically like twisting words for reactions. Hey, I've been wrong before.

The general perception that our country is in the shitter is based on the facts that our economy is "cratering" unemployment is through the roof, and houses are being lost left and right. The perception that we are in the shitter is based on the fact that we smell that shit everywhere. I'm not making the state of the union up to make a point, or even to spread the naysay you are accusing me of (and ironically in the process doing so yourself.)Get real for a second, I beg of you.

Why, what's your perception, Mr T? Are you, you personally, better off than you were 8 years ago?

So typical to relate it all somehow to Britney Spears, though. I can't tell if the intention was to recall those lovely campaign ads or not, but it's truly hilarious either way. :p

btw, where's that thread where you asked folks to see what happens with the new president before we spew negativity like last night's tequila and beer? I'm sure I joked, but I know I've said somewhere that I hoped that anyone who got elected would do what's best for WE THE PEOPLE. Or, Ouija People, one of those.

Undertoad · 12-29-2008, 03:01 PM

I'm not a button-pusher. I'm just vulcan like tw when pursuing truth. I care about your feelings at other times, in other discussions, but here we're in Politics and I'm just workin' the speed bag for my position.

TheMercenary · 12-29-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Merc, and your ilk, I'm glad to see your anti-americanism attitude hasn't dissipated in the least. As I said before, but never heard boo about, I didn't start bitching about the last president until he had a chance to start screwing up the country. You could try to do the same, if you love this country so much (you know the one you claimed to fight for, that freedom you admire so well?)

Those are your words. I could care less if you think I have an "anti-americanism attitude". I know you are wrong. I just think turn about is fair play, regardless of when it takes place. I am pretty sure Obama can take the heat and I am sure this is not the last time he is going to see the sting of people who disagree with him and what he stands for. That is how our government works. Otherwise you "and your ilk" would have been rounded up and dumped in some place like Gitmo or the Olympic Training Center in Iraq before Sadaam left. Things don't work like that here and I am glad to have been part of the reason it is not.

Flint · 12-29-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

I care about your feelings at other times, in other discussions,
but here we're in Politics and I'm just workin' the speed bag for my position.

You sound like House. Would sound if he bothered to provide that level of explanation.

Shawnee123 · 12-29-2008, 03:39 PM

UT and I can agree to disagree, although Im not sure where that came from in my post postulating bumper posts.

All that stuff about merc? He's been bitching about Obama since the beginning, and I really do believe that he would rather Obama and his administration fail miserably so he can be "right." I'm not the first to pose this suggestion. All this namby pamby "can't take it can you" crap is so far gone: we have taken just as much shit as you, and maybe some of we are hoping we and you can become US...just once, just on the slight chance that it'll get US somewhere.

But you don't want to hear any of that.

I feel sad for you, and I feel sad for US.

TheMercenary · 12-29-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

UT and I can agree to disagree, although Im not sure where that came from in my post postulating bumper posts.

All that stuff about merc? He's been bitching about Obama since the beginning, and I really do believe that he would rather Obama and his administration fail miserably so he can be "right." I'm not the first to pose this suggestion. All this namby pamby "can't take it can you" crap is so far gone: we have taken just as much shit as you, and maybe some of we are hoping we and you can become US...just once, just on the slight chance that it'll get US somewhere.

But you don't want to hear any of that.

I feel sad for you, and I feel sad for US.

And you'd be wrong. As usual.

Shawnee123 · 12-29-2008, 03:47 PM

If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...

TheMercenary · 12-30-2008, 10:20 AM

Gag-worthy: Bipartisan indignance over “Barack the Magic Negro” parody
By Michelle Malkin • December 29, 2008 01:16 PM Oh, give me a super-sized break.

Leftie ’60s leftover/songwriter Peter Yarrow at the Huffington Post fumes over the “Barack the Magic Negro” parody that has RNC candidate Chip Saltsman in hot water.

All of sudden — after eight years of “F**k Bush” bumper stickers and “Kill Bush” assassination chic and Bush-or-Chimp parodies — the left is concerned about insulting the office of the Presidency?

Now, they are concerned with protecting the dignity of the office and with forging “commong ground and mutual respect?”:

http://michellemalkin.com/

piercehawkeye45 · 12-30-2008, 10:51 AM

Barack the Magic Negro is considered racist. Much different than "Fuck Bush".

Shawnee123 · 12-30-2008, 10:52 AM

I never agreed with "Eff Bush" stickers or assassination jokes. That just isn't funny; he was/is still our president. IN fact, I find that kind of behavior downright sick.

But you can't seriously tell me that there isn't a difference between "the magic negro" and hating the president because he sucked?

:

Come ON folks, it can't be just me reading Frick and Frack's toxic anti-hope for any kind of success because of personal bias comments and thinking WTF is wrong with you guys, can it?

Sure, ignore, I know. But at some point you have to speak up and chastise the completely racist and defeatist attitude that will do our country NO GOOD AT ALL.

TheMercenary · 12-30-2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45

Barack the Magic Negro is considered racist. Much different than "Fuck Bush".

One is hate and the other is not? Yea, most of us call that a double standard.

piercehawkeye45 · 12-30-2008, 11:18 AM

First of all, do you remember the Palin rallies TheMercenary? There were assissination calls, there was "fuck Obama" statements, there were also completely racist actions as well. It did not start up a controversy nearly as much as this.

There are two reasons why this is a much bigger fuss than "fuck Bush". First, "fuck Bush" is an attack on an individual who, depending on the perspective, screwed over a very large number of people while "Barack the Magic Negro" is considered an attack on an entire race of people who really didn't do anything. Second, the fact that a politician said it is what started this entire controversy. Rush Limboaugh has been playing for a while and I didn't hear anything close to this.

If Hilary Clinton was publicity caught saying "fuck Bush", then maybe you can compare the two and we would only have to debate the racist content. But no democratic politician ever said "fuck Bush" so have no argument.

Remember, this mostly started with an idiotic statement by a politician, that was the main breaking point. The racist part just made it that much worse.

TheMercenary · 12-30-2008, 11:26 AM

Try to redefine in anyway that suits you it is no less hate. Both cases qualify. But yet people are getting their panties in a wad over it. I call it a double standard.

He looks and sounds pretty happy to me:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...-obama-go.html

12-29-2008, 02:12 PM	#18
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	The perception of the PRESENT state of the economy, or the PAST cheating of the system, are infinitely more verifiable than what will happen in the FUTURE. But again, you are pushing my buttons, I am letting you, so who's the bonehead here? I don't know you well, but I think I know you well enough to think that you are not one to typically like twisting words for reactions. Hey, I've been wrong before. The general perception that our country is in the shitter is based on the facts that our economy is "cratering" unemployment is through the roof, and houses are being lost left and right. The perception that we are in the shitter is based on the fact that we smell that shit everywhere. I'm not making the state of the union up to make a point, or even to spread the naysay you are accusing me of (and ironically in the process doing so yourself.)Get real for a second, I beg of you. Why, what's your perception, Mr T? Are you, you personally, better off than you were 8 years ago? So typical to relate it all somehow to Britney Spears, though. I can't tell if the intention was to recall those lovely campaign ads or not, but it's truly hilarious either way. :p btw, where's that thread where you asked folks to see what happens with the new president before we spew negativity like last night's tequila and beer? I'm sure I joked, but I know I've said somewhere that I hoped that anyone who got elected would do what's best for WE THE PEOPLE. Or, Ouija People, one of those. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

12-29-2008, 03:39 PM	#22
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	UT and I can agree to disagree, although Im not sure where that came from in my post postulating bumper posts. All that stuff about merc? He's been bitching about Obama since the beginning, and I really do believe that he would rather Obama and his administration fail miserably so he can be "right." I'm not the first to pose this suggestion. All this namby pamby "can't take it can you" crap is so far gone: we have taken just as much shit as you, and maybe some of we are hoping we and you can become US...just once, just on the slight chance that it'll get US somewhere. But you don't want to hear any of that. I feel sad for you, and I feel sad for US. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

12-29-2008, 03:47 PM	#24
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck... __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

12-30-2008, 10:20 AM	#25
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Gag-worthy: Bipartisan indignance over “Barack the Magic Negro” parody By Michelle Malkin • December 29, 2008 01:16 PM Oh, give me a super-sized break. Leftie ’60s leftover/songwriter Peter Yarrow at the Huffington Post fumes over the “Barack the Magic Negro” parody that has RNC candidate Chip Saltsman in hot water. All of sudden — after eight years of “F**k Bush” bumper stickers and “Kill Bush” assassination chic and Bush-or-Chimp parodies — the left is concerned about insulting the office of the Presidency? Now, they are concerned with protecting the dignity of the office and with forging “commong ground and mutual respect?”: http://michellemalkin.com/ __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

12-30-2008, 10:51 AM	#26
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Barack the Magic Negro is considered racist. Much different than "Fuck Bush". __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

12-29-2008, 03:01 PM	#19
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I'm not a button-pusher. I'm just vulcan like tw when pursuing truth. I care about your feelings at other times, in other discussions, but here we're in Politics and I'm just workin' the speed bag for my position.

12-30-2008, 10:52 AM	#27
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I never agreed with "Eff Bush" stickers or assassination jokes. That just isn't funny; he was/is still our president. IN fact, I find that kind of behavior downright sick. But you can't seriously tell me that there isn't a difference between "the magic negro" and hating the president because he sucked? : Come ON folks, it can't be just me reading Frick and Frack's toxic anti-hope for any kind of success because of personal bias comments and thinking WTF is wrong with you guys, can it? Sure, ignore, I know. But at some point you have to speak up and chastise the completely racist and defeatist attitude that will do our country NO GOOD AT ALL. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

12-30-2008, 11:18 AM	#29
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	First of all, do you remember the Palin rallies TheMercenary? There were assissination calls, there was "fuck Obama" statements, there were also completely racist actions as well. It did not start up a controversy nearly as much as this. There are two reasons why this is a much bigger fuss than "fuck Bush". First, "fuck Bush" is an attack on an individual who, depending on the perspective, screwed over a very large number of people while "Barack the Magic Negro" is considered an attack on an entire race of people who really didn't do anything. Second, the fact that a politician said it is what started this entire controversy. Rush Limboaugh has been playing for a while and I didn't hear anything close to this. If Hilary Clinton was publicity caught saying "fuck Bush", then maybe you can compare the two and we would only have to debate the racist content. But no democratic politician ever said "fuck Bush" so have no argument. Remember, this mostly started with an idiotic statement by a politician, that was the main breaking point. The racist part just made it that much worse. __________________ I like my perspectives like I like my baseball caps: one size fits all.

12-30-2008, 11:26 AM	#30
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Try to redefine in anyway that suits you it is no less hate. Both cases qualify. But yet people are getting their panties in a wad over it. I call it a double standard. He looks and sounds pretty happy to me: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...-obama-go.html __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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