The 24 hour engagement.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

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this is the LJ we know and love

[lumberjim]

is it this?

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

this is the LJ we know and love

lick it

[Undertoad]

present it.

[lumberjim]

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

this is the LJ we know <strike> and love</strike>

Fixed that for you.

[lumberjim]

are you saying you don't love me?

ow: my feelings.

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Tiki, I would probably like you in person, you have a lot of interests and seem to be a well-rounded open-minded person. I just havent liked the way you have talked to some people on this forum. It really is troll-like and aggressive. And so I poked you. As others have.

Do you feel my posts in this thread were troll-like and aggressive?

Because I was honestly trying to give the guy my perspective, and how I would have reacted and why, based on what he wrote. It seems to me that there are a few people following me around and jabbing at me off-topic in any thread I post in, to get a rise out of me, and all it does is derail the thread. That, actually, is trolling.

[Pico and ME]

Actually, here I thought you were just getting defensive after Ali's post...thats why I sugged letting it go. (When she said that no one else here was actually accusing him of betrayal).

But otherwise, in some other threads...yes. Im sure its just your style...you are obviously an intelligent and strong-willed individual who wont take any guff from anyone.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Tiki

It seems to me that there are a few people following me around and jabbing at me off-topic in any thread I post in, to get a rise out of me, and all it does is derail the thread. That, actually, is trolling.

I gotta cop to this.

I've totally been doing that. I apologize. I won't do it any more.

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by Tiki

Do you feel my posts in this thread were troll-like and aggressive?

Because I was honestly trying to give the guy my perspective, and how I would have reacted and why, based on what he wrote. It seems to me that there are a few people following me around and jabbing at me off-topic in any thread I post in, to get a rise out of me, and all it does is derail the thread. That, actually, is trolling.

I think what you do a lot of is reitterate previous points, but you don't need to. Because it's all there for the long term once you've pressed the send button. Say what you need to, and then let someone else have a go. Just because their perspective is different doesn't necessarily mean they think you're wrong, or that you should think they're looking to argue with you.

With regard to this particular thread and the advice that you've given dis, I'd say you've made your point very clearly. That's all Pico was saying. That we all get where you're coming from.

Originally Posted by Pico and ME

Actually, here I thought you were just getting defensive after Ali's post...thats why I sugged letting it go. (When she said that no one else here was actually accusing him of betrayal).

But otherwise, in some other threads...yes. Im sure its just your style...you are obviously an intelligent and strong-willed individual who wont take any guff from anyone.

Oh. I was trying to clarify what I DID mean. Because if someone thinks I've accused them of something, and I wasn't intending to, I usually try to clarify my intentions, in the hope that they'll understand and not go on carrying the idea that I was accusing them.

It seems like maybe my communication style and tendency to try to clarify when I think I've miscommunicated are not typical here? But I would rather reiterate in an attempt to further communication than let a misunderstanding rest.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

I gotta cop to this.

I've totally been doing that. I apologize. I won't do it any more.

Thank you. I appreciate that.

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by Tiki

It seems like maybe my communication style and tendency to try to clarify when I think I've miscommunicated are not typical here? But I would rather reiterate in an attempt to further communication than let a misunderstanding rest.

I used to do a lot of that myself, and honestly, all it did was annoy people. The difference with this forum is that most people are fairly open minded and willing to consider almost any point someone makes, but there's no way everyone is going to agree with anything anyone says here. There's just too many of us looking in from different angles. Just to reitterate (j/k), that's what I mean when I say to say your bit then let someone else have a go. It's interesting to watch what might spin off sometimes.

It's not like I can stop anyone else from having a go.

I'm not trying to please everyone here, and if I think someone has not understood me, I'm not going to stop explaining to them just because some other person I'm not even talking to might be tired of reading my explanation.