What about MY feelings? I'm offended by...

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Well Spexx is a left wing socialist liberal, so I'd expect that. Pure unadulterated bullshit? I suspect your regimen has separated you from reality. While the food isn't the healthiest, it's far from poison. The numbers I've seen for McDonald's, say only a very small percentage eat there more than once a week, and most say they don't even eat there once a month. Obviously McDonald's isn't the problem, it's what they are eating at home. It's the parents who are responsible, and should be accountable. Are you suggesting the government should make supermarkets remove all cookies, ice cream, prepared foods, candy, etc? Hell, why not outlaw home kitchens, set up chow halls, and make everyone eat there.

I didn't say that I agreed with regulating fast food, I merely pointed out that the government (taxpayers) does have a vested, financial interest in the issue.

The left wing socialist liberal way of dealing with the issue would be for taxpayers to pay for people's fast food, pay for their healthcare when it makes them ill, and pay for their funerals when they kick. The right wing fascist conservative way of dealing with it would be to let the people eat their fast food, psychopathically ignore them when it makes them ill, and let them rot where they are when they kick. The proposal is between those two extremes, and so is moderate.

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by Brianna

How many people in this cellar smoke?


I don't want to pay for their triple bypass surgery, either.

It's always the foodie, alkie or druggie with you people- you never talk about smokes. tsk tsk.

Have you forgotten the Marichiko vs. Lumberjim pay per view cage match already?

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Non profit is not sufficient, it has to be charitable, so forget it.

Who stuck that dic inside you? Why are you suddenly being so nasty, illogical, and stupid to everyone? Bruce, has your handle been stolen by UG? The tone and logic in your many replies has clearly changed.

What crawled up you ass and died?

[fo0hzy]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

I could be wrong, but I'll guess their "fruit smoothies" are loaded with sugar and calories.

Fuckin' A they are.

[Sundae]

Originally Posted by fo0hzy

Fuckin' A they are.

Hmmmmm

Strawberry Banana Fruit Blend:
Strawberry puree, banana puree, water, sugar, concentrated apple juice, contains less than 1% of the following: cellulose powder, natural (botanical source) and artificial flavors, xanthan gum, citric acid, colored with fruit and vegetable juice, pectin, ascorbic acid (preservative).

Low Fat Yogurt
Cultured Grade A reduced fat milk, sugar, whey protein concentrate, fructose, corn starch, kosher gelatin. Contains active yogurt cultures.
CONTAINS: MILK

Ice

A small (12 fl oz cup) contains:
180 calories
44g sugar
80 IU Vitamin A
70 mg calcium

12 fl oz of Coke contains:
120 calories
33g sugar
0 IU Vitamin A
0 mg calcium

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Have you forgotten the Marichiko vs. Lumberjim pay per view cage match already?

refresh my memory...

iirc - marichiko, despite her very dire circumstances, smoked the very costly American Spirit cigs...but that's all I remember...

[footfootfoot]

That's pretty much it, and LJ called her out on it. Her dire circumstances and her CO poisoning.

[hotshot1]

What if I said that muslims offend me ?

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Are you suggesting the government should make supermarkets remove all cookies, ice cream, prepared foods, candy, etc?

No no... But I wouldn't have a problem with them requiring those food items to be made without chemicals, fillers, and preservatives. Or, say, preventing the McDonald's beef from being rinsed with ammonia, or the McDonald's cheese to actually be made from 100% cheese...

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by tw

Who stuck that dic inside you? Why are you suddenly being so nasty, illogical, and stupid to everyone? Bruce, has your handle been stolen by UG? The tone and logic in your many replies has clearly changed.

What crawled up you ass and died?

I said, giving money to a non-profit does NOT make it a tax deduction, it has to be a CHARITABLE organization.
I don't know what the fuck your problem is, but you keep fucking with me, and you'll suddenly remember that last time you started this shit.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

No no... But I wouldn't have a problem with them requiring those food items to be made without chemicals, fillers, and preservatives. Or, say, preventing the McDonald's beef from being rinsed with ammonia, or the McDonald's cheese to actually be made from 100% cheese...

That's not what Frisco is doing though, is it?

[Clodfobble]

It is, indirectly--they put a maximum amount of allowable sodium in the meal, and a large portion of preservatives are sodium ________. They put a maximum amount of allowable fat, and beef from a higher quality source would simultaneously contain less fat and also not need to be rinsed with ammonia for sanitation.

But to be perfectly honest, another reason I don't have a problem with this is I think putting toys in kids' meals is a bad idea to begin with. How freaking spoiled do our kids have to be, to be entitled to a gift every time they eat? In my house, rewards are attached to doing something meaningful or worthwhile. Frisco didn't say "you can't serve this," or even "you can't serve this to kids." All they said was, you can't bribe the kids with toys, the parents have to make the decision to feed their kids this stuff without any added pressure.

[TheMercenary]

How about some of that buttered popcorn over there?

Pass it please.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

It is, indirectly--they put a maximum amount of allowable sodium in the meal, and a large portion of preservatives are sodium ________. They put a maximum amount of allowable fat, and beef from a higher quality source would simultaneously contain less fat and also not need to be rinsed with ammonia for sanitation.

But to be perfectly honest, another reason I don't have a problem with this is I think putting toys in kids' meals is a bad idea to begin with. How freaking spoiled do our kids have to be, to be entitled to a gift every time they eat? In my house, rewards are attached to doing something meaningful or worthwhile. Frisco didn't say "you can't serve this," or even "you can't serve this to kids." All they said was, you can't bribe the kids with toys, the parents have to make the decision to feed their kids this stuff without any added pressure.

What you want, or disapprove of, for you and yours is fine, but your can not (not suggesting you are trying to) speak for everyone else.

That's my point, the Frisco City fathers are imposing their wishes on everyone. I don't care if they take a public poll and 99% agree with them, of course if that were true McD's would be boarded up by now. But anyway, the majority don't have the right to impose on the minority in this Republic. Now don't tell me it already happens here or there, I know it does, but that's a matter of having the power not because it's right... it's not.

[Clodfobble]

But you never answered the parallel question... how is it different from a blue-collar employee saying they are willing to take a job at a factory with no safety standards, and it's not fair for OSHA/unions to enforce such safety features on them? How is it different from the government saying you have to wear a seatbelt in your car, even though it's not fair to make the auto industry install them, and to make me pay a higher cost for my car if I want to drive without one? How is it different from saying you can't market cigarettes to minors? I believe there are times when the right choice needs to be legislated, because corporations are not usually going to make the best choice for us as individuals.


Edit to add: Just noticed Merc's comment, and wanted to note that I'm not all in a tizzy about this, I'm just discussing. This is actually a relatively recent philosophical change for me--I have been much more libertarian in the past, but I've realized it's not practical because our society's never going to be hard-hearted enough for it.