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Old 03-21-2011, 01:22 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Spexxvet View Post
This is how that works: I post a specific, and you strawman argue it to death. I'm not going there. Like UT, I tire of this.



Timothy McVeigh felt that the incidences at Ruby Ridge and Whitby Island were the US government bullying him and his kind. So he retaliated using violence, and blew up the Murrah Building. Osama Bin Laden felt that the US was bullying Muslims, so he arranged to have some jets flown into some buildings on American soil.

You can behave like McVeigh or Bin Laden. I will behave like Gandhi or MLK.

Yes, Flint, this is hyperbole. Sometimes hyperbole is useful in getting a point across.
I'm fairly certain that McVeigh didn't come running out of his house after seeing the news coverage of Ruby Ridge or Whitby Island and take the fight to the government. Rather, he hid in a basement, hatched a plot, bought supplies, and then murdered innocent people completely unattached to either grievance.

Good old Osama tried to blow up a building to make a political statement. Not the White House, Capitol Building or Supreme Court, not even a military base, instead he tried to blow up a commercial building filled with an international hodgepodge of people. That didn't work so years later he came back with planes. Statement made. "Fuck you America"

Neither situation even remotely correlates with a kid standing still and taking punches and then deciding he'd had enough before immediately repulsing the attack, downing his attacker, ensuring he wouldn't be attacked again, and walking away

I have great respect for Ghandi and MLK, and I respect your right to behave in that manner when you are presented with the opportunity. It might be important to remember though that if we all felt and behaved as you suggest we would all be at the mercy of the thugs and bullies because no one would be there to slap them down.
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